[rollei_list] Re: OT: A Sonnar 1.5/50 72 years old

  • From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:49:00 -0800 (PST)

Frank, one of the main nature of a Velvia slide film is to be projected via an 
optical projector, perhaps you could obtain a look similar to Velvia talking 
about a scanned Velvia film, Velvia converted into pixels, however you don't 
have ways to emulate the look about a Velvia slide projected via an optical 
projector because the image is based on different physical means. If you 
project a digitalized Velvia slide using a digital projector comparing the same 
image with the original projected optically, they will look different because 
the physical means used are different. The original will be always the chemical 
slide.

About software to emulate film lenses, if you look in google you will find a 
lot of people trying to emulate Holga lenses, Lomo lenses, old not coated 
lenses, film lenses light fall-off effect etc.

About the other point, you are changing the discussion axis, we were talking 
about the means to capture the subject and you replied about the subject 
nature, these are two discussions very different.

Enjoy your digital hobby Frank

Best regards
Carlos

--- El vie 16-ene-09, FRANK DERNIE <frank.dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> De: FRANK DERNIE <frank.dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: OT: A Sonnar 1.5/50 72 years old
> Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Fecha: viernes, 16 de enero de 2009, 1:03 pm
> Hi Carlos,
> Clearly messing with colour balance is easy to do in
> software, and so one can try the tri-X look on a picture you
> thought was in need of the Velvia look if you wish, using
> digital.
> I had not heard of anybody trying to emulate the look of
> different lenses in software though, could you direct me to
> some information about this, I would be most interested to
> investigate?
> > 
> > The lenses situation is similar, good film lenses have
> > different "character" and the original
> Sonnar is
> > not the exception, digital media also tries to copy
> the film
> > lenses character via software, however, 
> 
> I quite understand, I would much rather have my
> grandaughter around than a photograph of her, but usually it
> is not possible and I certainly prefer a photograph over
> nothing if I can't have the real thing! (digital or
> chemical)
> 
> as the Chinese
> > Emperor said when a craftsman showed him a mechanical
> > nightingale, "why to hear the false nightingale
> if i
> > can hear the true nightingale".
> > Thank you very much for your comment Marvin.
> > 
> > I will be off line for some days
> > Carlos  
> > 
> > 
> > --- El vie 16-ene-09, marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> > 
> > > De: marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: OT: A Sonnar 1.5/50 72
> years
> > old
> > > Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Fecha: viernes, 16 de enero de 2009, 9:29 am
> > > Great photo Carlos, you photos have inspired my
> > thinking.
> > > 1. Our children will be interested in our
> photographs
> > if
> > > they are good enough and the kid is slightly
> > interested in
> > > art or business. I have the "Westons"
> in
> > mind.
> > > 2. It seems that film is able to exhibit a
> character
> > that
> > > digital cannot, such as the Sonnar look?
> > > 
> > > Marvin. 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Carlos Manuel Freaza
> > > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Date: 2009/01/16 Fri PM 06:14:33 HKT
> > > > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: A Sonnar
> 1.5/50 72
> > > years old
> > > > 
> > > > It would be unfair for the old Sonnar if I
> did
> > not
> > > upload a photograph taken at the widest f stop
> 1.5 but
> > using
> > > 1/1250, eliminating the camera shake factor
> present
> > for the
> > > previous portrait at 1/25 (please note the lens
> > > "bokeh" for both portraits):
> > > 
> > > Marvin. 
> > > >
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/3199809044/
> > > > 
> > > > This one is almost a joke, I took it to
> > > "test" the rangefnder adjustment:
> > > > 
> > > >
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/3199807946/
> > > > 
> > > > Carlos
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- El mi? 14-ene-09, Carlos Manuel Freaza
> > > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribi?:
> > > > 
> > > > > We were discussing on the Zeiss Ikon
> Contax
> > and
> > > the topic
> > > > > could be considered a technical issue.
> > > > > Eddy Smolov did a great work on my 1937
> > Contax
> > > II, the
> > > > > camera is a pleasure to use, these are
> the
> > first
> > > two scanned
> > > > > images taken with the not coated Sonnar
> > 1.5/50, I
> > > regret I
> > > > > don't have a lens hood for the lens
> yet.
> > > I'm
> > > > > impressed for the lens sharpness at
> wide f
> > stops,
> > > I doubt my
> > > > > modest Epson 4490 could reflect the
> > sharpness I
> > > see in the
> > > > > optical prints; colors could be more
> vivid
> > using
> > > a lens
> > > > > hood, however they are acceptable, I
> think.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This one was taken using the lens
> widest f
> > stop:
> > > 1.5 at
> > > > > 1/25 sec, camera hand held, Fuji
> Quality II
> > color
> > > neg:
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/3198192486/
> > > > > 
> > > > > This one was taken using a wide f stop
> too,
> > but
> > > smaller
> > > > > than 1.5 and fast shutter speed
> (perhaps
> > 1/500):
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/3198191712/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please see the images largest size
> > > > > 
> > > > > Carlos
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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