[rollei_list] Re: New to the list
- From: "Robert Creason" <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:09:28 -0600
Thanks for all the info Jeff. I will give it a try.
Bob C
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[mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:40 PM
> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list
>
> I'd experiment with a test roll or 2 to get the technique down with
> the Freestyle aprons in a SS tank. If you watch ebay you'll see
> Kodacraft tanks and aprons show up periodically. Unlike the Kodacraft
> aprons, I think the Freestyle aprons probably should be inverted to
> agitate. If you have a 2 reel tank, you could put an empty reel on
> top of the apron to hold it all steady. Good luck.
>
> Be advised that Freestyle has a $25 minimum order limit.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Robert Creason <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> > I had no idea know anyone still made those aprons. And at $1.09 each,
that
> > would be worth a try again. 120 is all I develop anymore. I guess
these
> > would fit in a SS tank? But would need the metal plate to put on top
the
> > apron. I could make something. I may try that.
> > Bob C
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:37 PM
> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list
> >>
> >> I have the Hewes 120 and 35mm reels and they are by far the easiest
> >> metal reels I've ever loaded.
> >>
> >> Of course, you could find some old (or new) film aprons and make it
> >> even easier to load film!
> >>
> >> Freestyle seems to have only 120 aprons at the moment. They are $1.09
> > each....
> >>
> >> For those who wonder what these aprons are all about check this link:
> >>
> >
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/50138-Plastic-Film-Apron-Reel-Replacement-for-
> >> Arista-120-size-EZ-Tank
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Robert Creason
<rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >> > Yes, I do remember the metal plate. The problem only occurred once
in a
> >> > while as I remember. I have two SS tanks/reels I would like to use,
but
> >> > they are so frustrating to load. Maybe I should try one of the Hewes
> > reels
> >> > to see if they are easier. The two I have are Nikor and Omega.
These
> > reels
> >> > look identical and both are difficult to load. The Jobo I use now is
> > very
> >> > easy to load.
> >> > BobC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> >> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:48 PM
> >> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list
> >> >>
> >> >> The Kodacraft tanks shipped with a metal plate that was supposed to
go
> >> >> on top of the rolled film/apron to keep that from happening. Kodak
> >> >> did NOT want one to invert these style tanks...just swirl the tank
> >> >> without inversion. I've never had a problem if I followed these
> >> >> instructions. In fact the original Kodacraft tank was light tight
but
> >> >> NOT sealed on top - so you could not invert it without trying to
seal
> >> >> the opening with your palm....
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Robert Creason
> > <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > I had a Kodacraft tank with aprons about 1950. They are so easy
to
> >> > load,
> >> >> > but I did occasionally have one that would, some way, loosen
during
> >> >> > developing and touch the film causing areas that didn't develop.
> >> > Otherwise,
> >> >> > I loved it. Use Jobo now, so much easier than SS.
> >> >> > BobC
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> >> >> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley
> >> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:30 PM
> >> >> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Even though I wrote about buying only the Pro Hewes reels (which
I
> > own
> >> >> >> along with Kindermann SS tanks) it doesn't mean I always use
them.
> >> >> >> *IF* one is buying Hewes reels, buy the Pro, however. The lower
end
> >> >> >> models are junk like most stainless reels.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Since 1970 I've used Paterson plastic reels and tanks, JOBO
plastic
> >> >> >> reels and tanks and Kodacraft plastic aprons & thanks. I also
have
> >> >> >> 35mm and 120 plastic aprons from Freestyle Photo.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If you've not used plastic aprons you're missing the easiest,
> > fastest
> >> >> >> way to develop film. Once the film is wound into the
lasagna-like
> >> >> >> roll of plastic, it can go into any stainless steel or plastic
tank.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Use whatever works! I got 2 new old stock Kodacraft tanks
w/aprons,
> >> >> >> never used, on ebay for 99 cents. The shipping was $10.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> As Jerry Friedman wrote to me privately years ago:
> >> >> >> "There is one downside to using an apron. It is VERY declasse.
> >> >> >> EVERYONE, after all, uses a metal tank and spiral
> >> >> >> reel. Using an apron is sooooo.........amatuerish. :>) "
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Have fun developing film. Who cares how?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jeff Kelley
> >> >> >>
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