DAW, This is off topic, so I won't reply anymore to walmart posts, but they come into small towns, lower their prices so that none of the family owned businesses can compete, run them out of business because of all the cheap people around who would rather have a deal than a relationship with their local stores and then they raise their prices back to normal. I lived in San Diego for many years and I saw it happen there, northern california, Florida, Oklahoma, and a few other places. They give their employees just under full time so that they do not have to pay benefits, and they fire anyone that even mentions starting a union to get better working conditions. I have seen them fire a full store of employees and shut down the store until they could hire new staff. They run everyone out of business, and then they hire them at low wages so that the only place they can afford to shop is at walmart. They are an unethical and immoral company and I have never and will never shop there because I still have my self respect and I care about my local community more than a cheap deal on some plastic item that will break after 3 months. My rant is over and I will not post off topic anymore. Costco is not so bad, they givve full time and pay competitive pay to employees. They sell cheap because they do it in bulk and they don't make the place pleasant to the eye. White floors, walls and ceilings are too sterile anyway. It used to be that buying American was enough, but now that greed has overcome so many in this country, it's more important to buy local and support your local businesses. walmart using local farmers is great, but they are doing this only to give you a little ammunition against those of us that know what they do to communities. One good thing with so many evil does not make them honorable nor does it convince me that they care about anything but the bottom line. It's better to care about people than money. J.D. ________________________________ From: Don Williams <dwilli10@xxxxxxx> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 10:26:21 AM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list At 12:00 PM 7/22/2010, Eric wrote: Hi JD - > >Understand and sympathetic to your position on WalMart. This is not an attempt >to defend them but an update... they use local labs for film processing and >are >actually changing some of there practices and now are beginning to support >local >farmers/growers as grocery suppliers. > >Eric Goldstein We now live in "WalMart" country, something that was rare in San Diego. Even though I have heard some pretty bad things about their employment practices, the folks working there are happy to have a job, especially older folks who otherwise would be sitting around at home worrying about where their next check will come from. I have noticed that about half of the customers in our closest store (we live in a development carved out of farm land) bring in cash in a paper envelope, no credit cards, no wallet, etc. We now live on a fixed income and WalMart saves the day for us. And, yes, it's true that they are adjusting their arrangements with suppliers, and have set aside funds to help employees go to school and I think, some lump sums to vendors. They are also remodeling their stores and the new versions are very nice. In San Diego we did a lot of business with CostCo. Same situation with both companies, if you see something you need and can afford it, buy it today, it may not be there tomorrow. After 4 years I'm still drawing on supplies of alkaline batteries from CostCo in SD. Also, WalMart and CostCo big box prices are far below those of Best Buy, etc., and you get the same level of tech support at all those stores, none. DAW