----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New Photo Book > Slobo, > > I remember when some of LA was bucolic. Hard to believe > that any of it is left. (Remember Dairy Valley?) > > Jerry > I remember the name and I remember when the valley had many unpaved streets and small "ranchettes". Also, until pretty recently, the west end of the valley (Thousand Oaks, Shadow Hills, etc.) were still largely agricultural. I also remember when the area around Buena Park was agricultural, largely dairy. The KFI transmitter near there used to have cows grazing on it. This was pre-I-5. I-5 is a main freeway. It goes from Sacramento to San Diego and is the main line to Orange County from the downtown L.A. area. I have somewhere a 1953 _Thomas Brothers_ map book of the city. Its fascinating to see how much undeveloped area there was even that late. BTW, I also remember when you drove through farm land when going out Santa Monica Blvd. from what is now West Hollywood through Beverly Hills and out to Santa Monica. Raymond chandler set a short story on part of this road. The short story was published in the mid or late 1930's but this area of the city still looked the same in the early 1950's. The curious thing is that the complaints people have about growth and change are always the same. In one of his letters Chandler, who came to Los Angeles around 1919, complained something like: "Los Angeles used to be a big dry sleepy town where people slept on their porches in hot weather and no one locked their doors." This letter was probably written in the late 1940's or early 1950's. I have the same feeling about it now displaced by forty years. Well, lets get a Charmburger and visit the ostrich farm. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list