[rollei_list] Re: Meter Testing
- From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:05:05 -0700 (PDT)
You are one inhabitant among millions and millions in Europe, Frank; I did not
write that a lot of people are using analog equipment in Europe, I did a
comparison with USA based on some five or six years old surveys but I did not
talk about quantities, in fact Gossen is still manufacturing lightmeters for
amateurs and Kaiser is making enlargers to do chemical prints.
Some professional photographers still using film in England and USA:
David Bailey, fashion photographer:
"While taking a portrait of UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown recently, Bailey was
reportedly asked if he ever uses digital.
“Nah” he quipped in front of the Labour Party leader. “Digital’s like socialism
– it flattens everything out and makes everything the same.”
Jack Dykinga
David Bailey uses film to shoot the famous; Pulitzer-Prize winning photographer
Jack Dykinga uses film to capture the deserts of the southwest.
“There’s absolutely no better way for me to do landscape than large-format
film, which in my case is 4×5 and Fuji-chrome Velvia film,” Dykinga told
Outdoor Photographer magazine."
Sacha Dean Biyan
"Sacha Dean Biyan is an award-winning fashion photographer and photojournalist
who spends much of his time on the road either shooting for clients that have
included Sony Music, the Gap and Lexus or collecting images for his Earth
Pilgrim project:“For now, despite the obvious advantages of digital, my
obsession with quality always draws me back to traditional means. I use medium
or large format cameras, and still prefer platinum palladium printing for my
images, which unfortunately cannot be appreciated over the Internet.”
Nevada Weir
Nevada Weir is a travel photographer whose images have appeared in National
Geographic, Smithsonian and Geo, sold through Getty and Corbis, and appeared in
nine photography books.
Talking about Europe, there are a lot of photographers using film in Germany,
France, Spain and other European countries, in the East specially, I couldn't
write their names here, anyway some of the most important German photographers
about cityscapes are using LF cameras with film, there was a significant
exhibition about their work a few months ago in Buenos Aires city.
Carlos
--- El mar 25-ago-09, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> It would not be a useless effort. I
> just mentioned the photographers -
> I- know, not the ones -you- know.
> You wrote that you thought perhaps Europeans used more
> analogue than
> Americans. I think, based on my experience, and travelling
> round the
> world all the time, that this is very unlikely.
> I have said nothing about quality, where we know each
> other's opinion,
> which are different.
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> On 24 Aug, 2009, at 22:42, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:
>
> > I guess that the labs work, and films and film cameras
> and enlargers
> > and lightmeters and similars are manufactured for
> imaginary people,
> > perhaps these things are made for ghosts and the
> analog photographic
> > equipment sold in e*** are for ghosts too :-)
> > I could mention you a lot of LF and MF photographers
> using film yet,
> > some of them at Flickr too, but it would be an useless
> effort.-
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> > --- El lun 24-ago-09, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > escribió:
> >
> >
> >> I haven't seen a non-digital camera
> >> here in Europe for years. The last
> >> really good photographer I know who was still
> using film
> >> changed a
> >> couple of years ago.
> >> I know people who still use 5x4 (4x5 in USA:-))
> for
> >> landscape. One of
> >> them even uses a fairly old digital camera as his
> light
> >> meter. He did
> >> some experiments comparing the digital ands its
> exposure
> >> histogram to
> >> film and subsequently used the digital pictures
> and the
> >> histogram of
> >> them to evaluate his film exposure. He is a
> master
> >> photographer and I
> >> thought this was very clever, it works well, and
> -much-
> >> more flexible
> >> than a single cell light meter.
> >> He can also use the jpgs from the digital on his
> web site
> >> to advertise
> >> the originals.
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> On 23 Aug, 2009, at 17:05, Carlos Manuel Freaza
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think digital photography has to do with the
> issue,
> >> external flash
> >>> reads could be interesting even if you have a
> very
> >> complete digital
> >>> camera, perhaps Europeans still use more
> analog
> >> equipments than
> >>> Americans.
> >>>
> >>> Carlos
> >>>
> >>> --- El dom 23-ago-09, Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> escribió:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Digital F is easy to find, but the
> >>>> other seems unavailable. Maybe
> >>>> North Americans use flash more often than
> >> Europeans?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 23, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Carlos
> Manuel Freaza
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Gossen "Sixtomat Digital" is
> called "Luna
> >> Pro
> >>>> Digital" in the
> >>>>> States and the version to take flash
> light
> >> reads too
> >>>> is called "Luna
> >>>>> Pro Digital F"
> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Gossen-GO4022-Luna-Pro-Digital-Light/dp/B0000AG939
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- El dom 23-ago-09, Elias Roustom
> <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> escribió:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> De: Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Meter
> Testing
> >>>>>> Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Fecha: domingo, 23 de agosto de
> 2009,
> >> 11:52 am
> >>>>>> Looks like a great meter - not
> >>>>>> available from any of the on-line
> >> merchants where
> >>>> I would
> >>>>>> expect to find it (in the U.S.).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 23, 2009, at 5:00 AM, Niels
> H. S.
> >> Nielsen
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:15 AM,
> >>>>>> Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> <snip> The question with
> new
> >>>>>> is whether I would miss the
> needle, it's
> >> great to
> >>>> wave
> >>>>>> meter up and down and see how far
> the
> >> needle moves
> >>>> between
> >>>>>> highlight and shadow.
> <snip>
> >>>>>> The Gossen
> Sixtomat digitial
> >> is
> >>>> an
> >>>>>> compact inexpensive option with
> the
> >> ability to
> >>>> make a
> >>>>>> continous reading and show the
> aperture
> >> range of
> >>>> a
> >>>>>> subject. I think the meter has
> another
> >> name in
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> US.
> >>>>>> http://www.gossen-photo.de/english/foto_produkte.html?foto_sixtodigi..html,picts/navi_foto_sub_01_sixtodigi.gif
> >>>>>> cheers
> >>>>>> Niels
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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