[rollei_list] Re: Large Format film availability
- From: "Jeff Kelley" <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:21:24 -0700
The multiple hard drive idea is probably more archival than any "burnable"
media but it seems all these ideas require human intervention over time.
Therefore, chances are very high that the archived data will eventually be
lost. Hard drives sitting unused for decades will not retain all their bits
and bytes. Someone HAS to periodically transfer data to current media or it
will be lost....
Besides, protocols, interfaces, other hardware and software will all change
over time to the point that our children's children would have to find a
"tech museum" to access most data that is still readable on ancient storage
media.
I'm not aware of any current way of making a truly archival copy of any
digital media. In fact I'll bet my next paycheck that the aliens who
finally stumble across the 12-inch gold-plated copper disk on the Voyager
spacecraft will probably play Frizbee with it vs. reading any data from it.
Richard, thanks for the details on the LP world. I still have 300-400 LPs
that sound pretty good.
Jeff
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Austin Franklin <
austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> I'd say hard drives (even if you burn two) would not be very archival.
> They
> still have an MTBF that is pretty low, and they don't necessarily last
> well
> over time even if unused.
>
> I'm curious why you think this (meaning that a pair of hard drives would
> be
> even remotely archival) and what info you base your comment on.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
>
> > Hard drives used in pairs. No burnable media is in any way close to
> > "reasonable" or archival.
> >
> >
> > Eric Goldstein
> >
> > --
> >
> > On 5/1/08, Allen Zak <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Are there any media that offer "reasonable," if not archival,
> > longevity for
> > > digital files? Although I have some respect for posterity, in about
> 20
> > > years I expect to have little or no involvement in it, anyway.
> > >
> > > Allen Zak
> > >
> > > On May 1, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Jeff Kelley wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I guarantee the claims are marketing hype. I worked for
> > years at Sony as
> > > an Application Engineer and Software Engineer during the
> > beginning days of
> > > CDROM. This was when the first 1X burners were tens of
> > thousands of dollars
> > > and the gold blanks were $25 to $35 EACH. They kept the blanks
> > locked in a
> > > metal cabinet & kept close tabs on them ;)
> > > >
> > > > I've had state of the art, lab quality CDs that were rated at
> > 100 years +
> > > die in less than 3 years. I've seen the same quality discs
> > unreadable on a
> > > second machine within seconds of burning them. And so on....
> > > >
> > > > CDROMS and DVD media are NOT archival backups. Period.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Eric Goldstein
> > <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is inaccurate information. Those claims arr marketing hype.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Goldstein
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/1/08, Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > Those more expensive gold DVD's are supposed to be ok though.
> > > > > > I'm getting those.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark William Rabiner
> > > > > > markrabiner.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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