I have only been on this list for a few days but is this the Bob Shell, formerly of Shutterbug fame, who left probably because of the creeping digital camera silliness, which is mostly about computers and programs, and which has by now pretty much destroyed the magazine?? Jim S. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Shell To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Karl Heitz, RIP (Query: Mechanical Cameras) On Tuesday, April 12, 2005, at 04:37 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote: > Bob, > Wasn't TAG a very wealthy company called Techniques Avant Garde, > who owned Heuer? They sponsored Porsche Formula 1 racing engines. > Different TAG. The TAG that sold Alpa was a US company, The Alpa Group. I still have some of their literature in my Alpa file. I don't remember the name of the man from Berkey who started it, but I remember that after the bankruptcy he was universally referred to as "that SOB". Bob