Hi John, I certainly don't avoid digital photography! I haven't been able to avoid it for over 30 years...since I have been design digital imaging equipment for over 30 years. But, one thing I have is perspective on its' capabilities, and its' image fidelity (since I do spend countless hours evaluating it). Good lenses are still good lenses...and even digital needs good lenses to look good. So I don't agree that good lenses aren't relevant. Regards, Austin -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of J M N Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:15 PM To: rollei list Subject: [rollei_list] Re: If Capa had digital Hi Austin, Everything you mentioned regarding film vs. digital is true more or less. I don't know how common it is to simply write over previously made images, but I'll take your word for it. But I find it true and difficult for Rolleiflex users to accept the fact that one can not avoid digital photography. If one is seriously involved and provides photography for a client or organization one must almost certainly employ digital photography or get left behind. Sacrocanct as the qualities of Schneider and Zeiss once were, today they are almost irrelevant. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: If Capa had digital Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:45:48 -0400 Hi John, I know MANY people who have had digital files disappear, or become damaged. Even after backing them up and taking every precaution. I've also seen them look great on the little preview screen for those that "chimp", and the files them selves be unusable. I've even seem the cards go bad right on the spot...at the shoot. Of course, these are all exceptions, but so are the problems with film. But, none of these issues have a thing to do with mishandling. That's a whole other set of issues that clearly exists. Common digital mishandling is simply writing over images that weren't meant to be written over. That can't happen with film, unless you leave the leader out (35mm). But, film can clearly be mishandled (storage, development etc.). Both film and digital have their issues, and neither is "better" in an overall sense than the other. It really comes down to a matter of preference more so than one being "better" than the other. Regards, Austin -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of J M N Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:59 AM To: rollei list Subject: [rollei_list] Re: If Capa had digital Hi Austin, The question was put forth as: imagine if Capa's D-day photos were digital. What then? The story has been told and it is well known that Capa's five or so rolls of film of the D- day invasion were ruined because of a wrong temperature setting on the film drying cabinet. All I am saying is that digital files do not require a film drying cabinet ergo nothing is ruined in this fashion. Yes, digital files can be mishandled. I suppose too one could slit one's tongue with the razor while shaving if not careful. But are the chances of that occuring? Althought I do hate it when that happens. YIKES! John > From: austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: If Capa had digital > Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:40:00 -0400 > > H i John, > > > Capa's negatives were cooked in a drying cabinet by an > > inattentive lab tech. Digital files aren't required to > > be mishandled in a drying cabinet. > > Are you saying there is no potential for mishandling of digital files by an > inattentive assistant? Or, that no mishandling is possible (as it isn't > required) with digital files? They just "magically" always work... Or, are > you saying that digital files require no actual mishandling to be "damaged"? > They can just simply be damaged by existing? > > I'm not trying to be sarcastic or snide...but trying to understand what you > are saying... > > Regards, > > Austin > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. Check it out.