Peter, Waddaya mean "MIGHT predate the Exakta? Nat. Graf II-- 1934, Exakta 66-- 1938. I'm sure that Richard can fill you in on "why 620?", 'cause I'm too tired. Jerry Peter J Nebergall wrote: > On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:14:12 -0800 Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> > writes: > > Peter, > > > > Yes, Ken Ruth is renowned for his quality work on quality cameras. > > > > Do you really think that a National Graflex II falls into that > > category? > > Quality? > > > That the II is the oldest 120 SLR I have ever seen, and MIGHT predate the > Exakta 66 (will discuss that point of history with Miles Upton > (exaktaphile.com)) makes it interesting. Might get some good stuff with > it. Fascinated that Bausch & Lomb licensed the Tessar. Got the piece > from Igor Reznick (Igorcamera) who said it was "nonworking" -- but it is > working. For now. Its a real Model T -- like the Speed, the focal plane > shutter is not self-capping, and the mirror is the capper -- you have to > manually recock the mirror before you wind it. Graflex was of course > once part of Kodak (til trust-Bustin Teddy got in there) -- and as the > National is 120, I wonder why the Medalist wasn't? > > Its not always about quality, or I'd not have bought my Praktisix..... > Plus, if you ck out my HARD CORE: MARGINALIZED BY CHOICE, you'll see how > I use wierd curiosity pieces to get otherwise difficult shots. The NGII > fits right in there, in the illustrious company of my Super Ikonta, IIIa > Leica, Edixamat, and Retina II. > > Had an experience this morning. Near my house is a copse I pass on way > to work. For 6 or 7 months each year, I have been able to see that there > was an early 60s T-bird abandoned in there. Never stopped. Today I > stopped to grab a few shots. > > In front of the T bird is a derelict 34 Studebaker. VERY derelict. > > Good pictures. > > Peter Nebergall > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 03/31/2006 --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list