I read about it. Several years before the wall came down, Dad tried to go home, to get some family papers out of a bank, and was detained by Vopos or Stasi (does it matter?), called "yankee spy" aand deported. I attended a workshop at American Anthropological assn. just after the wall fell (Modrow has my heartfelt thanks) about opportunities to study. I thought maybe folks would compare e and w.... but no. Sometimes reality is an obscene parody of sense. As I wrote in THE COLOR OF HIS COAT, it was a monotonous parade of droners crying crockodile tears about how the East would 'never again know the joys of Socialism" I blasted them (I was the only mauerspringer in the room) and then left before I puked... Hey -- Communism is garbage! And, it makes for poor cameras too. P.J. Nebergall On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:58:17 -0700 (PDT) John Jensen <jwjensen356@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > I presume you saw the film 'Goodbye, Lenin'. I was > talking with a former Ossie a few months ago (now in > Backnang, near Stuttgart) and we both had a few laughs > about the movie. He got a big kick about the > Spreewald Gherkin and the jar. He said it was really > like that, the movie that is. By my estimate of his > age, I would guess him to have been about the same age > as the fellow in the movie (in 1989). > > John > > --- Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I am in the US; the family is from Eisenach. > > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) John Jensen > > <jwjensen356@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > Peter, are you still in Germany? By your previous > > > responses I took it that you are in the U.S. > > > > > > John > > > > > > --- Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > I have a couple of Soviet-era cameras... Kiev, > > > > Start, Fed... and I have > > > > to agree... > > > > As an Ossi myself, I laugh at Pentacon's first > > > > request after unification, > > > > which was for the west to "please send > > accountants; > > > > we do not know how > > > > much our products cost us to manufacture..." > > > > Governments do a poor enough job of their job -- > > > > governing. Keep away > > > > from all else.... bitte sehr? > > > > > > > > P.J. Nebergall > > > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:30:35 -0700 "Peter K." > > > > <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > writes: > > > > > Just be glad governments don't manufacture > > > > cameras. Imagine the cost > > > > > to > > > > > mannufacture and the quality, or lack of I > > should > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > On 9/27/05, Jeff Dilcher > > <dilcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 06:42:40PM +0000, > > > > jon.stanton@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > "Giving one out of 4 dollars I earn to the > > > > government isn't the > > > > > root of > > > > > > all evils, but when I can't afford the > > camera I > > > > want, itis pretty > > > > > low on the > > > > > > tree..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't kid yourself....You give far more > > than > > > > 25% to the > > > > > > government...even at the lowest tax bracket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know. Then include state tax, local sales > > tax, > > > > car tax, gas tax, > > > > > and > > > > > > (insert your favorite tax here). > > > > > > I feel guilty. 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