Yes, I see them. On Thursday, March 31, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Peter K. wrote: > I am trying to figure that one out too. Does everyone see these > characters in my original post? Please reply. Perhaps it is something > at my end. > > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:06:30 -0800, Jerry Lehrer > <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wro= > te: >> Peter, >> =20 >> Include the lens, bitte! >> =20 >> 2.5 vs. 1.5 is hardly a TAD, it is 2/3 more! >> =20 >> BTW, WTF is this =3D20 that appears in some >> messages of yours? Can you or your server >> suppress this annoying artifact? >> =20 >> Can someone who knows more about >> computers than you or me, address this topic? >> =20 >> Jerry >> =20 >> "Peter K." wrote: >> =20 >>> Jerry,=3D20 >>> >>> The Pentax *ist 35mm SLR is shorter in length (4.8 v 5.3), equally as >>> tall, but a tad thicker at 2.5 v. 1.5. Then again it also has a built >>> in motor, can rewind itself, has faster sync speeds and shutter >>> speeds, has automated flash, and most importantly, you will not cry >>> if >>> you drop it. ;-) >>> >>> Peter K >>> >>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:15:36 -0800, Jerry Lehrer >>> <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>= > wro=3D >>> te: >>>> Peter, >>>> =3D20 >>>> Marc and I may take exception to your comment re: Jupiter >>>> lenses. I don't own any but I have tried a few and they are >>>> superb! >>>> =3D20 >>>> BTW, which FULL FRAME SLRs are smaller than M Leicas? >>>> Include a normal lens with your choices. They gotta be 35mm >>>> cameras with 50mm lenses. Remember, the Olympus Pen is >>>> half frame, >>>> =3D20 >>>> I await your selections. >>>> =3D20 >>>> Jerry >>>> =3D20 >>>> =3D20 >>>> "Peter K." wrote: >>>> =3D20 >>>>> Jupiter lens on a Leica? Ugh! Marc, Carl and Ernst are rolling in >>>>> their graves after you typed this. The only reason to use the >>>>> archa= > ic >>>>> Leica M is to use take advantage of the M optics. Other than that >>>>> there is little reason. Even SLRs these days are as small. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:10:11 -0500, Marc James Small >>>>> <msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> At 11:56 PM 3/28/05 -0500, Ardeshir Mehta wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, you are right about a Leica III (I was thinking of getting = > one =3D >>> =3D3D3D2=3D3D >>>>> 0 >>>>>>> myself on eBay), but they are more properly paired off with =3D3= > D3D20 >>>>>>> Rolleicords, not Rolleiflexes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But try getting an M3 or higher - M4, M6, etc. - on eBay for any= > thin=3D >>> g =3D3D >>>>> =3D3D3D20 >>>>>>> less than $1,000! I got a Rolleiflex D, equipped f/2.8 Xenotar, = > in =3D >>> =3D3D3D20 >>>>>>> almost perfect working condition (only the sports viewfinder mir= > ror =3D >>> is =3D3D >>>>> =3D3D3D20 >>>>>>> missing) for US$255 plus shipping. I WISH I could get an M3 that= > =3D3D=3D >>> 3D20 >>>>>>> cheaply - I'd JUMP at the chance! >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>>> Apples to apples, again. >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>>> The IIIc Leica equates to a Rolleiflex Automat in terms of vintag= > e an=3D >>> d us=3D3D >>>>> e >>>>>> at the time they were produced, both being then professional came= > ras.=3D >>> An=3D3D >>>>> d >>>>>> a IIIc with its standard Summitar will run about as much as an Au= > toma=3D >>> t in >>>>>> equivalent condition. =3D3D3D20 >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>>> In today's market, an M6 equates to a 2.8GX. See which is cheape= > r in=3D >>> the >>>>>> used market! >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>>> Your issue about lenses for the M6 is a bit misleading: a solid = > Jupi=3D >>> ter-=3D3D >>>>> 3 >>>>>> will run around $100 and a Leitz LTM to M adapter will run around= > $70=3D >>> , so >>>>>> add $170 (or more, if you wish to use a Leica lens) to the price = > of t=3D >>> he M=3D3D >>>>> 3 >>>>>> or M4 or M6. >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>>> The M4 does have an inflated price, one that I regard as improper= > ly >>>>>> inflated, as I find it a weak sister in the Leitz line and a came= > ra w=3D >>> hich >>>>>> lives much more on reputation than on performance. The M3 and M6= > are >>>>>> substantially superior cameras. >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>>> Marc >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>>> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 >>>>>> Cha robh b=3D3D3DE0s fir gun ghr=3D3D3DE0s fir! >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>> >>>>> --=3D3D20 >>>>> Peter K >>>>> =3D3DD3=3D3DBF=3D3DD5=3D3DAC >>>> =3D20 >>>> =3D20 >>> >>> --=3D20 >>> Peter K >>> =3DD3=3DBF=3DD5=3DAC >> =20 >> =20 > > > --=20 > Peter K > =D3=BF=D5=AC > >