[rollei_list] Re: Bloviating, Part 2: 2/85 Zeiss Sonnar

  • From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:14:25 -0700 (PDT)

I like the 6x6cm square format very much and a considerable number of my shots 
are dedicated to that format, however subjects and/or the idea about the 
composition require to crop the square or to use 35mm and different lenses 
sometimes.
Thank you very much for the kind comment Ed, BTW I regret you no longer are at 
Popular Photography :-)

Carlos 





--- El jue 16-abr-09, aghalide@xxxxxxx <aghalide@xxxxxxx> escribió:

> De: aghalide@xxxxxxx <aghalide@xxxxxxx>
> Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Bloviating, Part 2:  2/85 Zeiss Sonnar
> Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Fecha: jueves, 16 de abril de 2009, 10:36 pm
> Carlos,
> 
> I'm extremely impressed with your portraits. And if I
> were still at Popular Photography, I would have liked to
> publish these very sensitive images. I'm also impressed
> that you didn't stick with the 6 x 6 format dictated by
> the Rollei. 
> 
> Ed Meyers
> -------------- Original message from Carlos Manuel Freaza
> <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: -------------- 
> 
> 
> > I only have a Rollei SL 35M (QBM bayonet like the
> 3003) and I don't have the Zeiss Planar 1.4/85 but I
> know and tried it in July 2007 when it was offered to me, an
> excellent lens for portraits since it's a short tele
> Planar design made by Zeiss, the wider f stops allow a clear
> separation subject-background with pleasant bokeh and
> softening the subject hardest features at those wider
> apertures, it's a terrific sharp lens from f 4-f 5.6; I
> did not buy it for three reasons: 1)the price; 2)I had
> covered the focal length with the Rollei TLR lenses and
> Rolleikin; 3) I prefer 200mm lenses for head studies with
> 35mm film format and then I bought a Rolleinar/Mamiya tele
> 3.5/200, a terrific lens for 
> > portraits if you use it from the right distance.
> Talking about QBM lenses only, some experts like Prochnow
> consider the Mamiya/Rolleinar lenses for SL35/2000/3000
> cameras _at least_ as good as Zeiss lenses for every point
> of view, outstanding quality construction, very compacts 
> > and with modern computer design despite they were
> cheaper lenses. 
> > 
> > We are on Friday in several places of the world and
> then I'd like to mention two 
> > samples linked to the comment above (please consider
> my scanner is not as good 
> > for 35mm as for MF): 
> > 
> > 2.8C Xenotar 2.8/80 with Rolleikin 35mm film adapter: 
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/2244358971/ 
> > 
> > Portrait with Rolleiflex SL 35M QBM, Rolleinar/Mamiya
> 3.5/200 taken at f 4, 
> > camera handheld, focus on the eye in shadows: 
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/2744078846/ 
> > 
> > 
> > You could see the images largest size too.- 
> > 
> > Carlos 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- El jue 16-abr-09, aghalide@xxxxxxx escribió: 
> > 
> > > How do you rate the Rollei 3003 with 85mm f1.4
> Zeiss optik 
> > > for portraiture? 
> > > 
> > > Ed Meyers 
> > > -------------- Original message from Carlos
> Manuel Freaza 
> > > : -------------- 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I can assure that the Rollei TLR camera with
> the 
> > > Rolleikin is more comfortable to take _vertical
> format_ 
> > > portraits than any 35mm camera provided with tele
> lenses; 
> > > things change for the horizontal format, the TLR
> becomes 
> > > uncomfortable 
> > > > for this case. BTW I agree with you about
> the 6x6cm 
> > > film area, it does not make sense to have a MF
> camera to use 
> > > it for 35mm, however the Rolleikin is a funny and
> useful 
> > > > accesory to use sometimes. 
> > > > Tele Mutars are a bit rare and expensive,
> Rollei 
> > > recommended to use them at f 5.6 or smaller f
> stop, I have 
> > > seen some very good portraits taken with the Tele
> 
> > > > Mutar, most of them using tripod.- 
> > > > 
> > > > Carlos 
> > > > 
> > > > --- El jue 16-abr-09, Thor Legvold
> escribió: 
> > > > 
> > > > > De: Thor Legvold 
> > > > > Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Bloviating,
> Part 2: 
> > > 2/85 Zeiss Sonnar 
> > > > > Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > > > Fecha: jueves, 16 de abril de 2009,
> 9:11 am 
> > > > > But by using the Rolleikin, you might
> as well be 
> > > shooting a 
> > > > > Contax, Nikon or any other small format
> camera. 
> > > The whole 
> > > > > point of the 'flex is the wonderful
> 6x6cm 
> > > film area to 
> > > > > capture the image. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > How often to Tele-Mutar's show up,
> and what 
> > > do they 
> > > > > generally run? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have the close up adapters, but they
> don't 
> > > do the 
> > > > > flattering foreshortening that a true
> tele would 
> > > for 
> > > > > portaits. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers, 
> > > > > Thor 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 16. april. 2009, at 13.46, Carlos
> Manuel 
> > > Freaza wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- El mié 15-abr-09, Marc James
> Small 
> > > > > escribió: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> ... We Rolleiflex 
> > > > > >> TLR users frequently note that
> the sole 
> > > drawback 
> > > > > to the 
> > > > > >> camera is that it is not a
> decent 
> > > portrait taker 
> > > > > due to its 
> > > > > >> normal-lens format. Of course,
> a 
> > > Tele-Mutar or 
> > > > > Duonar helps 
> > > > > >> this out quite a bit!... 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I agree if you are trying to take
> a portrait 
> > > on the 
> > > > > minimal focusing distance point or very
> close to 
> > > this point, 
> > > > > otherwise normal Rollei TLR lenses are
> very good 
> > > for 
> > > > > portraits if you are not looking for a
> head study 
> > > IMO. 
> > > > > > BTW, the Rolleikin converts Rollei
> TLR 
> > > normal lenses 
> > > > > into terrific -superb-short teles for
> portraits. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Carlos 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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