[rollei_list] Re: Bloviating, Part 2: 2/85 Zeiss Sonnar

  • From: aghalide@xxxxxxx
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:36:18 +0000

Carlos,
 
I'm extremely impressed with your portraits. And if I were still at Popular Photography, I would have liked to publish these very sensitive images. I'm also impressed that you didn't stick with the 6 x 6 format dictated by the Rollei.
 
Ed Meyers
-------------- Original message from Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: --------------


> I only have a Rollei SL 35M (QBM bayonet like the 3003) and I don't have the Zeiss Planar 1.4/85 but I know and tried it in July 2007 when it was offered to me, an excellent lens for portraits since it's a short tele Planar design made by Zeiss, the wider f stops allow a clear separation subject-background with pleasant bokeh and softening the subject hardest features at those wider apertures, it's a terrific sharp lens from f 4-f 5.6; I did not buy it for three reasons: 1)the price; 2)I had covered the focal length with the Rollei TLR lenses and Rolleikin; 3) I prefer 200mm lenses for head studies with 35mm film format and then I bought a Rolleinar/Mamiya tele 3.5/200, a terrific lens for
> portraits if you use it from the right distance. Talking about QBM lenses only, some experts like Prochnow consider the Mamiya/Rolleinar lenses for SL35/2000/3000 cameras _at least_ as good as Zeiss lenses for every point of view, outstanding quality construction, very compacts
> and with modern computer design despite they were cheaper lenses.
>
> We are on Friday in several places of the world and then I'd like to mention two
> samples linked to the comment above (please consider my scanner is not as good
> for 35mm as for MF):
>
> 2.8C Xenotar 2.8/80 with Rolleikin 35mm film adapter:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/2244358971/
>
> Portrait with Rolleiflex SL 35M QBM, Rolleinar/Mamiya 3.5/200 taken at f 4,
> camera handheld, focus on the eye in shadows:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/2744078846/
>
>
> You could see the images largest size too.-
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
>
> --- El jue 16-abr-09, aghalide@xxxxxxx escribió:
>
> > How do you rate the Rollei 3003 with 85mm f1.4 Zeiss optik
> > for portraiture?
> >
> > Ed Meyers
> > -------------- Original message from Carlos Manuel Freaza
> > : --------------
> >
> >
> > > I can assure that the Rollei TLR camera with the
> > Rolleikin is more comfortable to take _vertical format_
> > portraits than any 35mm camera provided with tele lenses;
> > things change for the horizontal format, the TLR becomes
> > uncomfortable
> > > for this case. BTW I agree with you about the 6x6cm
> > film area, it does not make sense to have a MF camera to use
> > it for 35mm, however the Rolleikin is a funny and useful
> > > accesory to use sometimes.
> > > Tele Mutars are a bit rare and expensive, Rollei
> > recommended to use them at f 5.6 or smaller f stop, I have
> > seen some very good portraits taken with the Tele
> > > Mutar, most of them using tripod.-
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > > --- El jue 16-abr-09, Thor Legvold escribió:
> > >
> > > > De: Thor Legvold
> > > > Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Bloviating, Part 2:
> > 2/85 Zeiss Sonnar
> > > > Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Fecha: jueves, 16 de abril de 2009, 9:11 am
> > > > But by using the Rolleikin, you might as well be
> > shooting a
> > > > Contax, Nikon or any other small format camera.
> > The whole
> > > > point of the 'flex is the wonderful 6x6cm
> > film area to
> > > > capture the image.
> > > >
> > > > How often to Tele-Mutar's show up, and what
> > do they
> > > > generally run?
> > > >
> > > > I have the close up adapters, but they don't
> > do the
> > > > flattering foreshortening that a true tele would
> > for
> > > > portaits.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Thor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 16. april. 2009, at 13.46, Carlos Manuel
> > Freaza wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- El mié 15-abr-09, Marc James Small
> > > > escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > >> ... We Rolleiflex
> > > > >> TLR users frequently note that the sole
> > drawback
> > > > to the
> > > > >> camera is that it is not a decent
> > portrait taker
> > > > due to its
> > > > >> normal-lens format. Of course, a
> > Tele-Mutar or
> > > > Duonar helps
> > > > >> this out quite a bit!...
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree if you are trying to take a portrait
> > on the
> > > > minimal focusing distance point or very close to
> > this point,
> > > > otherwise normal Rollei TLR lenses are very good
> > for
> > > > portraits if you are not looking for a head study
> > IMO.
> > > > > BTW, the Rolleikin converts Rollei TLR
> > normal lenses
> > > > into terrific -superb-short teles for portraits.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carlos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Cocina
> > > > > Recetas prácticas y comida saludable
> > > > > http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/
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