[rollei_list] Re: Automat 'Tropical'
- From: "Matthew B. Filippini" <filippiniaia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:45:45 -0600
Here is an Ihagee Tropical camera:
http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/pp/ihagee/neugold.htm
Matt
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:20:43 -0300
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Automat 'Tropical'
> From: cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx
> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Yes Richard, one of the main differences for a "Tropical" camera was
> to replace the original cover -leather most of the times- using a
> high quality wood like teak with several properties to resist tropical
> climates.
> The Tropical Rollei TLR commented by Todd and that one shown in Flickr
> have nothing special regarding the regular models, at least they have
> the leather cover like the other cameras, the Flickr camera owner
> wrote he did not notice something special about the camera except for
> the word "Tropical".
> These are some beautiful "Tropical " cameras including the famous
> Zeiss Tropica camera:
> http://www.gilai.com/product_1152/Zeiss-Mahogany-and-Brass-Folding-Tropica-Camera
>
> http://www.cameraquest.com/ernie.htm
>
> http://www.gilai.com/product_294/Sanderson-Tropical-%C2%BD-Plate-Hand-and-Stand-Camera-circa-1905
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> 2010/3/11 Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "CarlosMFreaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:30 AM
> > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Automat 'Tropical'
> >
> >
> > John:
> > I was in a hurry this morning and I couldn't develop my idea.
> > BTW Ian Parker opinions on Rollei issues always deserve consideration
> > being him one of the most well known Rollei authors, however he lost
> > the interesting documents he mentions and anyway they don't explain
> > the real cause to call some pre-war Automat Rolleiflexes and
> > Rolleicords "Tropical".
> > The issue between Carl Zeiss Jena and Carl Zeiss Oberkochen for some
> > lenses trademark use after the WWII was a commercial/legal dispute
> > with political background, but they did not try to disguise the
> > country of origin with this dispute.Known prewar Rollei "Tropical"
> > cameras have other inscriptions to make clear they were products of
> > Germany.
> > A "tropical camera" means nothing today, but before the WWII a
> > "tropical camera" and during the XXth century first decades, it
> > represented the top of the line, the best camera quality for most
> > serious manufacturers, the camera was so good that it could resist the
> > tropical conditions, it's very possible Rollei used this word for a
> > pure commercial purpose only, to indicate the camera was so well built
> > that it could be considered a "tropical" camera, I really think this
> > was the only cause for the word "tropical".
> > Decades later the word "tropical" appeared again for the "Tropical
> > Case", but this time the cause was clear, this metal case really had
> > features to protect the camera in the tropical climate .
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > A number of manufacturers made "tropical" models. I don't have my
> > reference materials handy but I believe Zeiss-Ikon did and a couple of
> > British camera makers. Mostly these were constructed of types of wood,
> > metal, and leather that were supposed to be resistant to high humidity,
> > mold, and insects. About the only part of a Rollei that could be especially
> > vulnerable in the tropics would be the leather. Many "tropical" cameras had
> > "Russia leather" AKA Russian leather. Russia leather is tanned with Willow
> > and Birch bard, the birch giving it a distinctive odor. It is normally brick
> > red but was also dyed in other colors. I don't know if it is really any more
> > resistant to tropical conditions than other leathers. In any case, the
> > covering on the Rolleicord pictured does not appear to be Russia leather.
> > Other differences in so called tropical cameras was the use of Teak wood
> > and corrosion resistant bronze for some parts. Many had no leather covering
> > on the body. Tropical versions of cameras were, as you suggest, the most
> > expensive in a companies catalogue.
> > --
> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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