[rollei_list] Re: An Oldy but a Goody

  • From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:48:53 +0100

I use a Mamiya 7 as my MF camera of choice now - difficult to admit on the Rollei forum. I have had no problem with focus but since I use MF for landscapes at small apertures, and the Mamiya 7 lenses are slow anyway, it isn't tough. I would not use the Mamiya for people shots or closeups.


On 16 Sep, 2007, at 12:35, chatanooga@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Interesting to see that Xaviers Lambours was using both a Mamiya 7 and a Rollei. Maybe he had read this! Anyone know how easy to focus the Mamiyas are? I've never handled a range-finder but hear varying reports on their ease of focus.

On 9/15/07, Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:

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From: "ERoustom" <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 6:45 AM
Subject: [rollei_list] An Oldy but a Goody

> This is probably old news to most of you, but I found it
> again, while  "Surfing" and thought I'd share it:
> http://www.hevanet.com/cperez/test/fourcameras.html
> To summarize, it's the results of a test comparing two
> Rolleiflexes,  a Hasselblad, and a Mamiya.
> Like all good writing, it's worth reading again.
> Rainy fall day with nothing on the agenda but 7 rolls of
> film, and a  two new print developers to try.
> Enjoy,
> Elias

     I am glad you posted this. I was not aware that Chris
had revised his tests of the 3.5E. While I think these tests
are pretty much valid, certainly as far as contrast and
flare, any in-camera test of sharpness and resolution can be
misleading because one must rely on the finder for focus and
it is sometimes difficult to know how well it is adjusted.
     His finding regarding the Mamiya lens is not surprizing
in light of the almost universal reputation these cameras
have for sharpness and general quality.
     One problem I see is the flare around the edges he
mentions for the 2.8E. The construction of the Rollei 3.5
and 2.8 models is identical so the flare suggests that
something is amiss here. I have gotten mask flare but it was
from very severe overexposure, namely bright daylight
pictures taken at f/3.5.
     Also, very small amounts of haze in a lens can reduce
its contrast by a surprizingly large amount. Many lenses
develop some internal haze. Often its not visible unless you
shine a flashlight directly through the lens, they you will
see it. The haze cleans off with ordinary lens cleaner but
one must disassemble the lens to get to the internal
surfaces so the haze is often never cleaned off.
     It would be interesting to see Chris's tests with the
_negatives_ scanned directly to eliminate the variations of
the enlarging process.
     My own feeling is that the Mamiya camera is probably
aligned better than the others but that Mamiya lenses are
also exceptional in quality. For the other tests I think the
resolution is too low and may indicate some defocusing.
     It would also be interesting to compare the performance
of the lenses using the aerial image to eliminate some of
the variables of the cameras, i.e., film flatness and focus
precision. It is certainly valid to test a complete camera
as a system but tests made of the lenses alone would be more
useful in evaluating them and also in evaluating the camera
as a system since it would isolate some of the performance

Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA

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