----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: "Advantage of 4x5 over medium format" (was: Austin ... > On 4/19/05 7:10 PM, "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> > typed: > >> Sam, >> >> I doubt it. I would contact Dick Knoppow. He knows >> where >> the bodies are buried :-). >> >> Jerry > > I thought they were all mahogany boxes covered with > leather. > > > Mark Rabiner > Photography > Portland Oregon > http://rabinergroup.com/ > I don't know of any especially good sources for Graphic cameras. I know a couple of people who trade in them but don't trust them beause I've seen some of the junk they offer to the unsuspecting. One has to become familiar with the various models and variations and with what to look for. I don't have any simple advise other than to avoid stripped cameras. Crown Graphics have the advantage of being lighter and having a shallower box than Speed Graphics but tend to get a premium price because of it. There are far fewer of them than Speed Graphics so one is limiting opportunities pretty severly by concentrating on the. Crown Graphics originated with the "Pacemaker" Series of Graphics in 1947. Previous to this only Speed Graphics were made. The focal plane shutter used in Speed Graphic and Graflex SLR cameras is simple (sounds better than crude) but reliable. It is useful for motion stopping and for barrel mounted lenses but the fact is that many press and industrial photographers, the main users of Graphics, never used them. That is one reason the Crown was made. It was also significantly cheaper than the Speed. The Super Graphic is a very nice camera with many features and relatively light weight but it came too late to save Graflex. The only difference between the Super Graphic and Super Speed Graphic is the Graphic-1000 shutter supplied on the latter. As Bob Shell points out these tend to self destruct. Fred Lustig, who was the No.1 Graflex camera guy, claimed he could repair these shutters but I don't know if he is back in business after the stroke he suffered a couple of years ago. This shutter uses a peculiar arrangement for driving the shutter blades that allows the mechanism to accelerate before it contacts the blades. The tiny pins which drive the blades tend to break off after a time. Neither this shutter, or Kodak's Kodak 800 shutter was successful. Actually the top speed of the Graphic 1000 shutter is 1/500th second but its lack of efficiency is such that the equivalent exposure time is 1/1000 for the full clear aperture of the shutter. The focal plane shutter has better motion stopping ability and neither can compete with a strobe. I will try to answer any questions about Graphic cameras, providing I know the answer. The Graflex.org web site is probably the best all around source of information on these cameras. It will at allow one to identify models. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx