[rollei_list] Re: About some F "white face"... conversions?
- From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:38:05 -0700
Well, let's throw this into the mix.
Does anyone know that there were two versions of the white face.
Slobodan Dimitrov
Studio G-8,
Angels Gate Cultural Center
http://sdimitrovphoto.com
On Jul 31, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Choiliefan@xxxxxxx wrote:
Carlos:
My 2.8F 12/24 ser# 24697XX has the newer NON-half moon strap lugs
but is NOT a white face model.
I've always suspected it was a late example since both the hood and
prism have US distributor "Honeywell" printed below Rollei on the
name plates.
The 2.8 Planar is 4876049.
Hope this information is useful in your search. My limited
research has never revealed the year this camera was produced nor
the years Honeywell was distributor.
Today, fighting for truth, justice and the last slice of pizza!
Lance
Selma, NC 27576
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In a message dated 7/31/2006 8:53:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Thanks John, your info is very interesting, I have
seen a lot of F white face along the years, the first
one was a new 2.8F white face that my father's partner
bought on 1974 during a visit to Europe, I shot with
that camera, and I saw even more thanks to Internet,
the e-commerce and auction sites in different
countries, this is the second time in few days that I
know about an F "white face" with semi-circle in the
strap holders.
The 2.8F I mentioned above did not have the 12/24
switch lever and then I guessed there was a version
without it; finally I found in the Rollei Factory
Manual written version(the PDF version is difficult to
handle in the PC) the exploded view about the F panel
with and without 12/24 switch, they are identical
except for the switch and the perforation for the
switch lever. My 3.5F has the semi-circle but it also
has the previous film transport crank side
panel version.
The first section of the Rollei Factory Repair Manual
shows the 3.5F and 2.8F "white face" versions without
the semi-circles in the strap holders, however it's
possible that some earlier "white face" cameras
without the 12/24 external switch lever were provided
with the "mond" in the strap holders according your
camera and the 2.8F in Co... show, but for my case
they only are two cameras for at least thirty F "white
face".-
All the best
Carlos
--- John Wild <JWild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
escribió:
> Carlos,
>
> I have a White Face 3.5F which does not have the
> 120/220 option. I have owned it for 20 years. Hence,
> I would assume it is original because it would have
> been sold before sellers realised that they could
> get more for a White Face than a standard 3.5F. It
> has the 'mound' in the side plate that would take
> the option lever.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Carlos Manuel Freaza
> Sent: 30 July 2006 04:46
> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [rollei_list] About some F "white face"...
> conversions?
>
>
> According the Rollei Factory Repair Manual and the
> Rollei Report II from Claus Prochnow, the 12/24
> 120/220 film counter was introduced in the 3.5F and
> 2.8F models on 1965, and the new "white face" front
> panel on 1970 according that Manual and on 1971
> according Prochnow ( it appeared in some list prices
> on 1971 and then the slight difference), anyway all
> F "white faces" cameras are provided with 12/24
> 120/220 film counter and regarding the 3.5F all
> "white face "
> cameras are provided with Xenotar 3.5/75 lenses and
> a few 2.8F "white face" cameras were provided with
> Planar 2.8/80 lenses, afterwards the Xenotar 2.8/80
> was also used only.
> Along several years I have seen some "white faces"
> cameras out of the specifications mentioned above, I
> think these cameras have something strange because
> most of them also have other features out of specs,
> i.e. a supposed "white face" 3.5F without 12/24 film
> counter and Planar 3.5/75 lens or a 2.8F also
> without
> 12/24 film counter and the semi-circle in the strap
> holders, etc., then I suspect -only suspect- these
> strange cameras were "converted" into "white face"
> cameras using a front cover panel spare part and
> they are sold like "white face" cameras increasing
> their prices. I have seen some samples again this
> afternoon, I'm not saying that the current seller
> made the modification, perhaps he believes it's an
> original "white face" really, but IMO they are not
> original "white faces", it's a simple assumption of
> course, for
> example:
>
http://www.collectcamera.com/pagesrollei/rolleicam/28f286c.htm
>
> The "white face" quoted above does not have 12/24
> film counter, it seems to have the Planglass holder
> in the camera body and the strap-holders have
> semi-circles, these features are out of the original
> 2.8F "white face" specs, it seems to be an older
> camera with newer "white face" front panel cover.
> Other example, look for the item 200010295772 on
> eBay; this 3.5F "white face" has Planar 3.5/75 lens
> and does not have 12/24 film counter and the
> photographs don't show the camera body without the
> back to see if it is prepared to receive the
> Planglass; the Planar lens and the 12/24 film
> counter lack are out of specs for an original "white
> face" model.
> Conclusion: Be careful buying a "white face"
> camera.-
>
> All the best
> Carlos
>
>
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