I don't expect Leica to make TLRs, just letting my imagination run wild.
The TLR is now a dead issue.
On Apr 21, 2015 3:58 PM, <Dirk-Roger.Schmitt@xxxxxx> wrote:
*Von:* rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *Im Auftrag von *David Sadowski
*Gesendet:* Dienstag, 21. April 2015 22:25
*An:* rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Betreff:* [rollei_list] Re: News from the DHW-Rollei-Insolvency Auction
What did you expect? That sounds like a pretty typical auction and a
typical result.
If the auto collimators are really that rare and useful, 300 Euros may
still be a quite reasonable price. And did you think that somehow things
were going to be tested ahead of time, or that the seller would be offering
some sort of warranty or guarantee?
I do not understand what you mean, of course I did not expect anything
else. I was just reporting.
It's liquidation... as-is no warranty... cash and carry, apparently. And
anyone interested in bidding via fax ought to have considered it ahead of
time, and not the day before the auction.
Digital photography has claimed the Rollei TLR as its latest victim. I
would guess that the brand name will still pop up on digital cameras and
film made by other companies.
This it does, but the junk sold under Rollei brand name has nothing to do
with the traditional German optics.
If anyone could have saved the TLR, it would have been Leica, since their
film cameras are sold to much the same market. But it would seem it was of
no use even to them.
How should Leica TLRs, as they do not know how to make them????
Can you imagine a Rolleiflex TLR with Leica optics? That would be a
dynamite combination.
This would be needless. The Zeiss and Schneider lenses on the TLRs are
exceptional. No Leica lens would be better. Even they do not know how to
make them.
This reminds me of what happened to Deardorff many years back. A whole
bunch of used Deardorffs were put onto the used market in the late 1980s,
when a major Chicago-area studio (Kranzten) went out of business.
This was the last straw for Deardorff and they went under. With the price
of a new Rollei being so much more than that of a good used one, is it any
wonder that the market for the new ones has collapsed?
The latest is a correct comment.
Dirk
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:54 PM, <Dirk-Roger.Schmitt@xxxxxx> wrote:
I am just back from the auction.
To say, there was no option to get a good camera or lens.
All lenses and cams were production samples, with wear from testing, and
even it was not known whether they worked. No warranty for working.
Also, all the bids on lots which included cameras or lenses were
ridiculously high. People thought it was the last chance to get a
Rolleiflex. But if you look to EBay,
you find a lot off much more affordable offers. I did not make any bid on
any camera. Would been completely senseless. Anyway, only very few bodies
with wear and no know functionality were offered.
I bought a Zeiss microscope, the measuring collection of Lot 1193 (it
looks like Mr. Heidecke worked himself with it), an original Rollei power
supply and a lot of framed photos.
I was bidding on the 6 auto collimators they sold, but they got out for
over 300 Euros each, which was over my limit.
Regards
Dirk
Dirk-Roger Schmitt
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Von: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Thor Legvold
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. April 2015 17:43
An: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [rollei_list] Re: DHW-Rollei-Insolvency Auction
Lots 654, 661 and 1077 all included complete cameras, as far as I can
tell. My German’s pretty rusty though, maybe I misunderstood.
Thor
On 21 Apr 2015, at 13:24, Dirk-Roger.Schmitt@xxxxxx wrote:
Nobody knows.new company, as before, to continue offering Rollei branded equipment and
Anyway, complete cams and lenses are not on sale.
The stock seems to sold separately.
Dirk
Beste Grüße, Best Regards,
Dirk-Roger Schmitt.
Sent from my mobile phone.
Von: Thor Legvold
Gesendet: 21.04.2015 12:29
An: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [rollei_list] Re: DHW-Rollei-Insolvency Auction
I haven’t seen a fax machine in at least 10 years.
Anyway it’s a bit late now. As much as I’d like to get a HY6…
I wonder what will happen to support and service? Will they reform in a
service existing gear?
few bids on some gear I’d like, but it looks like you have to actually be
Thor
On 21 Apr 2015, at 11:07, Dirk-Roger.Schmitt@xxxxxx wrote:
You Can bid by fax.
Beste Grüße, Best Regards,
Dirk-Roger Schmitt.
Sent from my mobile phone.
Von: Thor Legvold
Gesendet: 21.04.2015 10:31
An: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [rollei_list] Re: DHW-Rollei-Insolvency Auction
I was hoping that it was an online auction and that I could put in a
there.
love an auto collimator myself for the princley sum of 50 EU. If the
Thor
On 21 Apr 2015, at 09:19, Dirk-Roger.Schmitt@xxxxxx wrote:
Brett, the price starts at 50. Question is where the bidding ends.
Also the shipping cost to Australia?
Beste Grüße, Best Regards,
Dirk-Roger Schmitt.
Sent from my mobile phone.
Von: Brett Rogers
Gesendet: 21.04.2015 09:11
An: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [rollei_list] Re: DHW-Rollei-Insolvency Auction
Dirk,
I understand in order to purchase you actually have to be there. I'd
collection and transportation of two instead of one would not be a major
inconvenience I'd be most obliged if you could get me one, please. Can send
payment via Paypal immediately. I'd attend myself but it's a fair trip from
Australia...
Rangefinder Forum where I always do my best to help owners with Rollei
I'm an infrequent contributor to the list, but well known over at
queries or problems.
<http://www.proventura.de/insolvenzversteigerung-des-kameraherstel>Cheers,
Brett
From: Dirk-Roger.Schmitt@xxxxxx
To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rollei_list] DHW-Rollei-Insolvency Auction
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:09:18 +0000
Unfortunately,
I have very bad news.
The Insolvency Sale starts on Tuesday.
http://www.proventura.de//insolvenzversteigerung-des-kameraherstel
an auction. There were a lot of visitors from all over Europe, from Cypruslers-dhw-fototechnik-gmbh-ehem.-franke--heidecke-gmbh-salzdahlumer
-str.-196-38126-braunschweig-finale-liste-online/auction/2669/bild
katalog/seite/19/#bildkatalog
I had a visit today at the factory. EVERYTHING is sold by Tuesday in
to Lithuania, a lot of Rollei enthusiasts.
alternative.The auction on Tuesday will blow up the tears. But there is no
we had a joint tour.I met at the factory the former R&D Head of Rollei Fototechnic, and
lines and final testing lines. All looked as they were left yesterday. AWe saw the drilling and grinding workshop, the optical assembly
lot of partly assembled HY6 and TLR could be seen on the assembly lines.
plenty of rooms which have never visited for the last 30 years! They areWe went to the LARGE cellar of Rollei, like catacombs. There are
full of single lenses, lense blankets, parts for TLR, test equipment and so
on.
anymore.The collection of the last - at least - 30 years which nobody used
WWII. It is also full of old stuff. All is going out by tomorrow, and forWe visited the shelter, under in the cellar, which was built during
a lot of valuable items nobody will take care about. They all will be go to
trash.
plenty of them. They have been built in the 1960s in batches of hundreds byPersonally, I will try to bid for an autocollimator. They still have
Rollei directly. They are going out for 50 Euros.
batch to continue, but this did not happen.
IT IS VERY SAD!
I hoped, there would be somebody found who would take all items in a
want to continue.
I take numerous of photos which I will display later on.
Best regards, and God bless some people from former DHW which still
Regards
Dirk
Dirk-Roger Schmitt
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