[rollei_list] Re: ADMIN: Tone of Posts
- From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:43:22 -0700
You know. This is all one way. I appreciate your doing that but he has
hi-jacked your list. He is not the authority you think he is. And while this
is just my opinion, I know I am not alone. There are several people, some
have even posted, that they have a Carlos Filter which takes his posts and
sends them directly to the trash. They are exactly that and that is what I
need to do.
He is a bully, gets away with a lot of nonsense and you do not see it.
Now if I am so bad that you want to banish me from the list, so be it. I
really do not think I deserve it as I have been a member longer than Carlos
and never had an issue until now. But your are the list mom, so its your
call.
Peter K
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> Ha ha ha. You had to dig back 5 years in an attempt to show I had a post
> you believed was not coherent. That is a laugh.
>
> And you left out the context. The comment was one can never be sure what
> happened at a meeting unless they were there.
>
> Plus, this would seem to say that for 5 years I have been accurate
> coherent. Thank you. Better than most I would say.
>
> Considering your posts are all from what you read and have never lived I
> take it from the source and laugh. But I for one, will not stoop to such a
> low and juvenile tactic as to go back and find some post to show the group
> that you were inaccurate. I have much better things to do. I actually feel
> sorry for you that this is the only thing you have.
>
> Peter K
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I talked about your opinions written to internet forums, I did not
>> attack you as person.
>>
>> Carlos
>>
>> 2010/4/12 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> > Wow. You really are trying to show how smart you are by this "personal
>> > attack." Somehow I think it back fired. Now let's see if you get warned.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Peter, your opinions have a complete lack of coherence, in 2005 you
>> >> wrote that Hasselblad and Heidecke meeting perhaps had nothing to do
>> >> with business and that there was not evidence about the agreement:
>> >>
>> >> > De: Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Asunto: [rolleiusers] OT: Heidecke meets Hasselblad meeting
>> >> > Para: rolleiusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Fecha: domingo, 11 de septiembre de 2005, 16:53
>> >> > Maybe it was a business meeting. The
>> >> > reason for which we can only "speculate." Perhaps Victor and
>> >> > Reinhold met to discuss birding? Perhaps they were BOTH into
>> >> > bird watching. I for one am not familiar with Rheinhold's
>> >> > hobbies. Perhaps they were considering merging the
>> >> > companies? Or to discuss the best ways to get a better price
>> >> > on Planar and Schneider lenses if the two companies combined
>> >> > their orders. Again, all we can do is speculate.
>> >> >
>> >> > Peter K
>> >>
>> >> But now you are saying that Hasselblad convinced Heidecke about the
>> >> Rollei SLR no production during that meeting, I think these changes of
>> >> opinions are not the best samples for your positions.
>> >>
>> >> Carlos
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2010/4/12 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> >> > OK Marc, one last thing though. Here is what was stated for the
>> record.
>> >> > Note
>> >> > there is not a reference to my saying 1981 followed 1955.
>> >> >
>> >> > "> Hasselblad had ZERO interest in a TLR. That is a dream created by
>> >> > Rollei
>> >> >> somewhere. Prochnow was daydreaming about that one. Victor used that
>> >> >> threat
>> >> >> as a means to convince Heidecke not to build an SLR. Heidecke took
>> the
>> >> >> bait
>> >> >> and Rollei eventually failed. "
>> >> >
>> >> > My point was the SLR was ignored by Rollei until the mid 60s. Because
>> of
>> >> > this sales dropped, the owning families sold their shares, etc.
>> Whether
>> >> > this
>> >> > contributed to the eventual failure in 1981 we will never know. All
>> >> > ancient
>> >> > history. But I do say they missed the boat. The ignored the market
>> until
>> >> > it
>> >> > was too late. The vast majority of wedding and commercial pros were
>> >> > using
>> >> > Hasselblads including NASA years before the SL66 debuted. So even
>> though
>> >> > the
>> >> > SL66 made sales they did not exactly take market share from
>> Hasselblad
>> >> > and
>> >> > Mamiya was doing well in the 60s as most wedding photographers were
>> >> > using a
>> >> > Hassy or Mamiya. Had Rollei embraced the SLR in the 50s when they
>> pretty
>> >> > much dominated the market things may have been different, but
>> Hasselblad
>> >> > was
>> >> > smart and it is my opinion that those at Rollei were not.
>> >> >
>> >> > At this point I will leave this thread alone as you ask.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Peter K
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Marc James Small
>> >> > <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At 02:36 PM 4/12/2010, Peter K. wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I never said 1981 followed 1955. Please read my posts before you
>> say
>> >> >>> something like this.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Peter
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have read everything you have posted. You have consistently
>> stated
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> the actions taken in 1955 were the central cause of the Rollei
>> >> >> Foto-Technik
>> >> >> bankruptcy in 1981. You might want to re-read your own posts.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let us give this thread a rest.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Marc James Small
>> >> >> Rollei List Owner
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
>> >> >>
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