[rollei_list] Re: 80mm for portraiture
- From: "Eric Goldstein" <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:12:48 -0400
This is correct. Bob Shell also used to argue that an 80mm on MF was
too short for portraiture, and any number of successful portraits shot
with a standard lens put the lie to this...
In fact, many of the famous Rollei portraitists further heresied the
camera-to-subject issue by using Rolleinars
Eric Goldstein
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On 3/25/08, Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree with Carlos.
>
> Perspective is purely a function of camera to subject distance. The
> type of perspective preferred is generally seen in the 5-8 foot range.
> (1.5-2.5m) Therefore the lens choice determines how tight the crop is
> but not the perspective, provided you are within equivalent distances.
>
>
> Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:
> > It depends about the kind of portrait, if you talk
> > about head portraits, the 80mm is short, however the
> > TLR 75 and 80mm are excellent for situational
> > portraits and half-body portraits, some famous TLR
> > photographers like Fritz Henle, Richard Avedon, Diane
> > Arbus among others used the TLR for situational and
> > half-body portraits mainly, Avedon used Rolleinars
> > for closer views sometimes.
> > If you wish to maintain the square format, it's
> > necessary to fill the square for the composition; you
> > can crop the square too, Avedon used to crop the
> > square for several portraits taken with the TLR,
> > however he maintained the square format for some of
> > his best portraits about Marilyn Monroe:
> > http://nymag.com/news/features/31523/
> >
> > All the best
> > Carlos
> > --- Thor Legvold <tlegvold@xxxxxxx> escribió:
> >
> >
> >> If this has been beaten to death elsewhere, please
> >> give me a URL link
> >> (or two).
> >>
> >> I know the technical discussion wrt distortion and
> >> such, but I was
> >> just wondering in practice what people are finding
> >> when using their
> >> TLR's for portraits. I know Avendon, Penn and many
> >> others managed to
> >> make quite many a strong image, yet people (i.e.
> >> pro's) still seem
> >> prefer a 150mm or thereabouts for the gentle
> >> 'compression' (or
> >> reduced distortion) produced.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts as to using a TLR for portraiture? Most
> >> of my shots are
> >> either land/cityscapes or portraits, just wondering
> >> if people had any
> >> tips or advice as to getting the best out of the
> >> camera. Will a
> >> Rolleinar help, or just make matters worse (reducing
> >> the distance to
> >> the subject to fill more of the frame at the expense
> >> of added
> >> distortion)?
> >>
> >> With the 6008 I use a 150/4 for portraits, and the
> >> 80mm for upper
> >> body shots/group shots, and the 40mm for when I want
> >> to add dramatic
> >> effect or include much of the background. The 40mm
> >> f3.5 Super-Angulon
> >> is a little gem, btw.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Thor
> >>
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