[rollei_list] Re: 4x5.5 16 exposure masking set
- From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:13:14 -0700 (PDT)
John:
I think after Claus Prochnow books about Rollei products, a new Rollei
book does not make sense, Claus' books have some errors and omisions but they
are minimal in comparison with the right and complete info you can obtain from
them, and we are in the digital era now.In fact I obtained from the Report I
the info about the Rolleicord II Phillips camera, the page 244 has 3
photographs on this model, one of them showing the camera without the lateral
panel and the 24 exposures wheel counter.
Talking about my book (it's about the German immigration to my province/state
during the XIXth century), yesterday I saw the plates to print it in the
Printing House; while the pre-press process is digital 100%, offset printing
process is chemical 100%, they have two machines, one of them receives the
aluminium plate with a green light sensitive surface, this machine
"photographs" on the sensitive surface the info received from the computer -
the book pages with the inks separation-the "photographed" aluminium plate
passes through the second machine that processes it like a b&w negative film
and you have the green surface converted into your book pages ready to print.
The machines are in a room with a special yellow light to avoid plates fog (the
plates were Fuji).
My book has photographs very much, however only three are Rollei photographs,
the rest are 100 years old in average. I converted the book original files into
PDF format to print, it allows the Printing House to handle the document page
per page to organize the printing pages distribution according the paper size.
PDF format respects the image quality if you choose the right options for the
conversion process.
Perhaps I'll quote an URL where you could see the way I transformed an original
Rolleiflex 3.5F photograph into the book cover, the page is under construction.
Carlos
--- El jue 13-ago-09, John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> De: John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: 4x5.5 16 exposure masking set
> Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Fecha: jueves, 13 de agosto de 2009, 5:30 am
> Thanks Carlos, I did not know that.
>
> ....... I am surprised that it is not a Rollei book that
> you have written
> and just published or is that next on the agenda? ;-)
>
> Kind regards
>
> John
>
>
> On 12/08/2009 22:16, "Carlos Manuel Freaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I add to your list the pre-war Phillips Rolleicord II,
> it was provided with a
> > masks set to take 24 6x3 pictures. The film counter
> wheel with the 24 numbers
> > was within the camera body like the regular counter
> wheel, this model was
> > manufactured from or during 1939 and the number of
> cameras is unknown; this is
> > a rare camera and the way to know if it has the 24
> frames counter is taking
> > the lateral panel out, the serial numbers are included
> within the Rolleicord
> > II third version serial block.
> > At least the firsts masks set pouches for the
> Rolleicord Vb were also marked
> > "Rolleicord 16" like the Rolleicord Va masks set
> pouches and then you need to
> > see the content.
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > --- El mié 12-ago-09, John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> escribió:
> >
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> There are two 16-on kits. The first type is for
> the 'T' and
> >> Rolleimagic
> >> models and the mask fitted to the film gate
> automatically
> >> trips the film
> >> counter to 16. This comes in a square leather zip
> pouch
> >> marked 'Rolleiflex
> >> 16'.
> >>
> >> The second type is for the Rolleicord Va/b models
> with
> >> interchangeable film
> >> counter and comes in two variants, one is for the
> >> Rolleicord Va with fixed
> >> viewfinder hood marked as 'Rolleicord 16' on an
> oblong
> >> zipped pouch and the
> >> second variant is for the Rolleicord Vb in the
> same sized
> >> pouch but marked
> >> as 'Rollecord Vb 16'. The main difference is the
> viewfinder
> >> mask. For the
> >> Va, it sits on top of the ground glass screen for
> the Vb it
> >> is inserted
> >> underneath. They should both work with either
> model unless
> >> Carlos states
> >> otherwise ;-)
> >>
> >> There is a 24-on set for these two Rolleicord
> models too.
> >> The Vb version has
> >> a wider film gate mask making it possible to have
> an almost
> >> Hasselblad Xpan
> >> format on a Rolleicord or you can file the Va mask
> to be
> >> full frame width.
> >>
> >> You do need to make sure all the parts of the kit
> are
> >> present. The
> >> viewfinder masks for the 'T' 'Magic and Vb are
> delicate and
> >> easily broken,
> >> being thin to fit under the viewfinder screen.
> >>
> >> These kits will not work with any other
> >> Rolleiflex/Rolleicord models; so, no
> >> the Rolleiflex 3.5F is only 12 exposure (or 24
> exposure on
> >> 220 on that
> >> variety of 'F') and 6x6 (unless you put a mask in
> the film
> >> gate).
> >>
> >> As a second camera, Rolleicords are quite cheap
> and so are
> >> the mask
> >> sets.........
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/08/2009 13:00, "Robert Lilley" <54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jerry,
> >>>
> >>> Ah, "proper model" you say. So its not
> universal
> >> then? Do you know
> >>> if it works on a 1962 3.5F?
> >>>
> >>> Rob
> >>> On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Jerry Lehrer
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Rob,
> >>>>
> >>>> It works perfectly with the proper model
> >> Rolleicord or the T 'flex.
> >>>>
> >>>> I use that format a lot in my H'blad.
> Very
> >> good for landscapes and
> >>>> classic cars--- Lousy for portraits
> >>>>
> >>>> Jerry Lehrer
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Robert Lilley wrote:
> >>>>> Does anyone use the 16 exposure 4x.5.5
> masking
> >> set? What do you
> >>>>> think of the format and does the
> framing/film
> >> advance work out OK?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rob
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