Thanks Carlos, I did not know that. ....... I am surprised that it is not a Rollei book that you have written and just published or is that next on the agenda? ;-) Kind regards John On 12/08/2009 22:16, "Carlos Manuel Freaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I add to your list the pre-war Phillips Rolleicord II, it was provided with a > masks set to take 24 6x3 pictures. The film counter wheel with the 24 numbers > was within the camera body like the regular counter wheel, this model was > manufactured from or during 1939 and the number of cameras is unknown; this is > a rare camera and the way to know if it has the 24 frames counter is taking > the lateral panel out, the serial numbers are included within the Rolleicord > II third version serial block. > At least the firsts masks set pouches for the Rolleicord Vb were also marked > "Rolleicord 16" like the Rolleicord Va masks set pouches and then you need to > see the content. > > Carlos > > --- El mié 12-ago-09, John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > >> Rob, >> >> There are two 16-on kits. The first type is for the 'T' and >> Rolleimagic >> models and the mask fitted to the film gate automatically >> trips the film >> counter to 16. This comes in a square leather zip pouch >> marked 'Rolleiflex >> 16'. >> >> The second type is for the Rolleicord Va/b models with >> interchangeable film >> counter and comes in two variants, one is for the >> Rolleicord Va with fixed >> viewfinder hood marked as 'Rolleicord 16' on an oblong >> zipped pouch and the >> second variant is for the Rolleicord Vb in the same sized >> pouch but marked >> as 'Rollecord Vb 16'. The main difference is the viewfinder >> mask. For the >> Va, it sits on top of the ground glass screen for the Vb it >> is inserted >> underneath. They should both work with either model unless >> Carlos states >> otherwise ;-) >> >> There is a 24-on set for these two Rolleicord models too. >> The Vb version has >> a wider film gate mask making it possible to have an almost >> Hasselblad Xpan >> format on a Rolleicord or you can file the Va mask to be >> full frame width. >> >> You do need to make sure all the parts of the kit are >> present. The >> viewfinder masks for the 'T' 'Magic and Vb are delicate and >> easily broken, >> being thin to fit under the viewfinder screen. >> >> These kits will not work with any other >> Rolleiflex/Rolleicord models; so, no >> the Rolleiflex 3.5F is only 12 exposure (or 24 exposure on >> 220 on that >> variety of 'F') and 6x6 (unless you put a mask in the film >> gate). >> >> As a second camera, Rolleicords are quite cheap and so are >> the mask >> sets......... >> >> John >> >> >> On 12/08/2009 13:00, "Robert Lilley" <54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> Jerry, >>> >>> Ah, "proper model" you say. So its not universal >> then? Do you know >>> if it works on a 1962 3.5F? >>> >>> Rob >>> On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote: >>> >>>> Rob, >>>> >>>> It works perfectly with the proper model >> Rolleicord or the T 'flex. >>>> >>>> I use that format a lot in my H'blad. Very >> good for landscapes and >>>> classic cars--- Lousy for portraits >>>> >>>> Jerry Lehrer >>>> >>>> >>>> Robert Lilley wrote: >>>>> Does anyone use the 16 exposure 4x.5.5 masking >> set? 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