[rodgersorganusers] Re: rodgersorgan Digest V2 #293
- From: "jim/peggy chisholm" <jimpeg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:59:12 -0500
To Edwin Russell: Edwin, the way I handle this problem in Cakewalk is to
right click (while in the score mode) on the note I whish to lengthen or
shorten, a screen pops up that gives among other things the length of the
"beat" of the note in question. Simply go into this screen and type a new
number for the note you wish to shorten. Example, a note of the chord shows
a value of 6:0034, simple type in a new number, such as 4:0034. This must
be done for each note of the chord. But is relatively easy to do and works
perfectly. You may have to experiment with different values to get just the
length you want.
The other half of the problem is also rather easy to do. You can shift
music into the blank space created by your previous editing by going to the
pane mode, click on the pane you wish to shift to highlight (select it),
(there are other ways to select, but I think you already know that). Then
go to the top and click on edit, in the edit screen under "slide" type in a
number (seconds, measures, etc.) for the distance you wish to slide the
remaining information (pane). Type a "-" sign for sliding to the left and a
positive for sliding to right.
Hope this is understandable and that it works. Jim Chisholm, Organist,
Sevier Heights Baptist, Knoxville, TN
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> [rodgersorganusers] Christmas is coming for Organists withou
> [rodgersorganusers] Cakewalk frustration
> [rodgersorganusers] organ selection committee
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> [rodgersorganusers] Re: Christmas is coming for Organists wi
> [rodgersorganusers] Re: Cakewalk frustration
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> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:50:38 -0500
> From: noel jones <gedeckt@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [rodgersorganusers] Christmas is coming for Organists without
MIDI
>
>
> Christmas is coming for Organists without MIDI OR Why should the
> Organists with MIDI get to have all the fun?
>
>
> We are creating Audio CD's of our four Christmas Books with MIDI
> Orchestra for organists who do not have MIDI.
>
> Organists without MIDI can now perform An Angelic Christmas, A Musical
> MIDI Christmas, For Unto Us and Playing for the Christ Child...just hand
> the CD to your sound person and play up a storm!
>
> You perform the organ part live....the orchestra plays from the church
> sound system.
>
> I have been asked to play at least 10' of "Happy Christmas Music" before
> church each of the Sundays of Advent...so An Angelic Christmas will be
> heard this Sunday, pipe organ and sound system.
>
> If there is sufficient interest (meaning, if they sell...) we will offer
> other books in the same manner.
>
> A link to a sales page will be announced over the weekend.
>
> Just another project from the people that brought you Playing MIDI Live
> at the Rodgers Organ!
>
> noel jones
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:42:10 -0800
> Subject: [rodgersorganusers] Cakewalk frustration
> From: Edwin S Russell <ed_russell@xxxxxxxx>
>
> I am using Cakewalk Home Studio 2004 to edit a MIDI file created
> on a Rodgers organ with PR-300S (and saved as SMF). I have been
> able to do most of the editing that I need to do except one thing and
> I do not seem to be able to find how to do what I think should be
> very simple.
>
> There are a couple of places in this piece where a chord was held
> too long and it disrupts the rhythm. All I want to do is remove one
> beat from one measure and shift everything that follows over to fill
> the gap. That is I want to delete 24:02:000-24:03:000.
>
> I have been able (I think) to "select" that one beat but the edit-delete
> menu only seems to delete things like tempo changes, events, etc.
> Doing the delete does not remove/shorten the notes.
>
> I have tried everything I can think of -- even resorting to trying to
> make
> sense out of the "help" information. I think I have done what the help
> stuff suggests as well but it does not remove what I want removed.
>
> Can any of you Cakewalk experts help?
>
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> From: "ronnie johnston" <rjohnston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [rodgersorganusers] organ selection committee
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 07:33:25 -0700
>
> To all List Members:
> My church has just elected an organ selection committee. I am pleased
beyond words that the church wants to move into the digital world as we
presently have a Providence 330 that is 25 years old, and still going strong
I might add. Anyway, I could use all help and ideas about fund raising and
anything else you can possibly think of that could help us reach our goal.
I'm holding out for a Trillium 967 with all the bells and whistles, and I
think we'll get there. My church celebrates its centennial in July, and my
Pastor would like to have the installation completed by then and have a
dedication service as part of our centennial. So the way I figure it, I've
got less that 6 months to get this done. I would appreciate any and all
HELP that you fine people could provide.
>
> Ronnie Johnston
>
>
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>
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:59:09 -0500
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> Ed,
> While I'm certainly no Cakewalk expert, I will try to walk you through it.
I
> have posted screen shots of what I am talking about (because a picture's
is
> worth 1000 words) in the MIDI discussion group under the file section. If
your
> not a member, you can sign up for free. They are posted here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FrogMusicNotateSequence/files/ Because I
uploaded them in
> order, you have to start at the bottom and work your way up.
> The first thing you have to do is make sure that your snap to grid setting
is
> set to a quarter note so that you can select only a quarter note (I think
> Cakewalk defaults to a whole note snap.) Do this by right-clicking on the
time
> bar at the top, selecting snap properties from the drop down and selecting
> quarter.
>
> Now highlight the beat you want to delete on the time bar ( 24:02 -
24:03).
> BTW, this example posted is one of Noel's files... just in case I make a
> mistake and screw it up <wink>. To do this click at the beginning of beat
24:02
> and while holding the mouse button drag it right to 24:03.
>
> Now from the Edit menu across the top, select Delete. From the Delete menu
> that pops up, make sure that ALL the boxes are checked EXCEPT shift by
whole
> measures. Press OK and everything should shift to the left.
>
> That should do it.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Clay
>
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> From: WmMTexas@xxxxxxx
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:54:45 EST
> Subject: [rodgersorganusers] Re: Christmas is coming for Organists without
MIDI
>
> In a message dated 12/04/2003 7:51:34 PM Central Standard Time,
> gedeckt@xxxxxxxx writes:
>
> << We are creating Audio CD's of our four Christmas Books with MIDI
> Orchestra for organists who do not have MIDI. >>
>
> I am most definitely interested and want one!!!
> William Morris
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "St. Clement's Choir" <stclementschoir@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [rodgersorganusers] Re: Cakewalk frustration
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:16:01 +1000
>
> Hi not sure that I can help since I use Cakewalk Pro and Sonar (Believe me
I
> prefer the old Cakewalk Pro to Sonar - maybe I;'m just a die hard -
anyway:-
>
> Assuming that some of the conventions are the same, and you are using
> windows, I would try the following
>
> Highlight the whole music using Control-Shift-5 (All three keys
together -
> the 5 is the Numeric Pad 5 not the 5 in the main keyboard area.
>
> Then at the top where all the measures are numbered - select the beat you
> want to remove. You may need to take the Snap to Grid off to do this well
>
> The select EDIT > DELETE and a dialogue box should hopefully appear
>
> Select all the options available and especially select delete hole
>
> Click OK and the beat and all that is in it be deleted and everything else
> slide into its place - HOWEVER
> any notes that started before your selected area will still retain the
same
> length and will need to be trimmed - to do this select the track with the
> note(s) for trimming - right click and select the PIANO ROLL view. Find
the
> note(s) that need shortening and shorten each note to the required length
by
> dragging the end of the note shorter.
>
> There is another downside of DELETE HOLE. If a track starts after the
> selected deleted area, I find that it will not slide and has to be done
> individually.
>
> Not sure if I have been any help. But I hope so.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Rod Mather
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edwin S Russell" <ed_russell@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:42 AM
> Subject: [rodgersorganusers] Cakewalk frustration
>
>
> >
> > I am using Cakewalk Home Studio 2004 to edit a MIDI file created
> > on a Rodgers organ with PR-300S (and saved as SMF). I have been
> > able to do most of the editing that I need to do except one thing and
> > I do not seem to be able to find how to do what I think should be
> > very simple.
> >
> > There are a couple of places in this piece where a chord was held
> > too long and it disrupts the rhythm. All I want to do is remove one
> > beat from one measure and shift everything that follows over to fill
> > the gap. That is I want to delete 24:02:000-24:03:000.
> >
> > I have been able (I think) to "select" that one beat but the edit-delete
> > menu only seems to delete things like tempo changes, events, etc.
> > Doing the delete does not remove/shorten the notes.
> >
> > I have tried everything I can think of -- even resorting to trying to
> > make
> > sense out of the "help" information. I think I have done what the help
> > stuff suggests as well but it does not remove what I want removed.
> >
> > Can any of you Cakewalk experts help?
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:06:53 -0500
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> From: Edwin S Russell <ed_russell@xxxxxxxx>
>
> Yes, that is the exact sequence I have tried several times and
> it does not work for me. That is also what the help files say.
> When I select Edit-delete the box that pops up has all of the
> boxes already checked except that they are "grayed out".
> Clicking "ok" does not change anything. There is obviously
> some step, perhaps in the "selection" process, that I am
> missing.
>
> I will try to check the Web site you cite to see if there is
> anything obvious that I have overlooked.
>
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:59:09 -0500 Clay Baker writes:
> > Ed,
> > While I'm certainly no Cakewalk expert, I will try to walk you
> > through it. I
> > have posted screen shots of what I am talking about (because a
> > picture's is
> > worth 1000 words) in the MIDI discussion group under the file
> > section. If your
> > not a member, you can sign up for free. They are posted here:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FrogMusicNotateSequence/files/
> > Because I uploaded them in
> > order, you have to start at the bottom and work your way up.
> > The first thing you have to do is make sure that your snap to grid
> > setting is
> > set to a quarter note so that you can select only a quarter note (I
> > think
> > Cakewalk defaults to a whole note snap.) Do this by right-clicking
> > on the time
> > bar at the top, selecting snap properties from the drop down and
> > selecting
> > quarter.
> >
> > Now highlight the beat you want to delete on the time bar ( 24:02 -
> > 24:03).
> > BTW, this example posted is one of Noel's files... just in case I
> > make a
> > mistake and screw it up <wink>. To do this click at the beginning
> > of beat 24:02
> > and while holding the mouse button drag it right to 24:03.
> >
> > Now from the Edit menu across the top, select Delete. From the
> > Delete menu
> > that pops up, make sure that ALL the boxes are checked EXCEPT shift
> > by whole
> > measures. Press OK and everything should shift to the left.
> >
> > That should do it.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Clay
>
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