There are only a few guides to registration that I'm aware of (like the = Goode work mentioned by Noel), which is a real problem for newcomers to = the organ. However, it's not just beginners that struggle. I have = several friends who have played for years and still have questions about = drawing stops. OTOH, registration must not be automatic or rigid, so we = can't expect to read all the right answers any more than we could read = about how to paint without trying it out. I've been studying the = instrument for more than 30 years now, and won't claim to have mastered = the art. And no, I can't paint, either... The best advice I can give to individuals that want to learn more about = the art of registration is do develop, and then trust, your ears. Learn = to recognize stops by their sound, and take advantage of concerts, = experimentation, the myriad CDs available to train your ear to the = possibilities. Fortunately, many CDs now contain not only the = specifications of the organ, but registrations used on each piece = (especially recordings of historic organs). Listen to CDs of Widor at = St. Sernin in Toulouse, and Bach on historical instruments in Germany = and The Netherlands. You will no doubt hear things you like very much, = and things you don't like just as much. Then, always let your ear be = your guide as you sit at any instrument you come across, Rodgers or = otherwise. Every specification has strengths, weaknesses, and = limitations. What works well in one situation may not translate to other = instruments at all. Don't just follow simplistic rules; even some = composers' registration indications might need to be modified to get the = sound he or she was intending. Editors' suggestions are just that, no = more. Now, since older music is a particular passion of mine (let's not forget = that JS Bach is near the midpoint in organ literature, not at the = beginning):=20 One great source is The Registration of Baroque Organ Music by Barbara = Owen = http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0253210852/qid=3D1056994774= /sr=3D8-1/ref=3Dsr_8_1/103-7645773-0704603?v=3Dglance&s=3Dbooks&n=3D50784= 6. It is very well written, organized by geography and time so it makes = a good reference when questions arise. The author takes pains to = describe both the registration practices on historical instruments and = how to translate those practices to modern instruments. (BTW, I'm not = asserting here that there is only One True Way to register historical = works, but I do believe that one learns much about the music when it is = heard the way the composer would have heard it. I'm eternally grateful = to Rodgers for providing tools like historical temperaments to help me - = what a great feature.) Depending on the model you have, the Rodgers stoplist contains some very = nice historical sounds, especially when combined with the old = temperaments. The extensive Voice Pallet stops frequently contain stops = representative of different schools of organ building (French versus = German, for example). I've spoken with several Rodgers owners that = haven't gone behind the stops on the surface of their instruments. = Experiment! Of course, if you have a PR300, Hector's miraculous = adaptations of MIDI sounds contain yet more wonderful stops (including = his legendary Dulzian).=20 On a related but slightly different topic:=20 One often hears claims that a large specification can "play music from = all periods". Well, I suppose it's true to some degree, but I don't = think those instruments can play all periods well. For one thing, the = tuning makes a huge difference. I recently heard the Bach Passacaglia = played in equal temperament in a concert. It's still a beautiful piece, = but get your hands on a recording in a historical temperament and listen = to what happens near the end when Bach hits the D-flat section (where = the performer in the concert did a wonderful cadenza, by the way). The = music goes from C minor to the roughest key in the tuning (D flat) to C = major in only a few bars, and the effect is wonderful. C major never = sounded so grounded. When D flat sounds the same as C, the effect is = much reduced. Try playing Bach's Herzlich tut mit Verlangen from the = Individually Transmitted Chorales (the one in F# minor) in Kirnberger = rather versus equal temperament. The piece sounds remarkably different, = and Bach's decision to set it in that key is no accident. The F# major = ending is the "peace that is no peace", and it totally befits the text. = There are many other examples. Conversely, I listened to a CD of the Stanford Magnificat and Nunc = Dimittis on the way to the beach yesterday, and the organ was tuned in a = Kirnberger derivative. It's a truly beautiful organ by any standards = (and sounded great in Buxtehude), but the Stanford was just a bit = unsettling when compared to a good English cathedral instrument in equal = temperament. So, in the quest for good registrations, let's not forget = the role of tunings. Thankfully, we play instruments in Rodgers organs that have perhaps the = strongest claim to be able to play music of all periods. Between Voice = Pallet stops, outstanding MIDI implementation, and changeable tunings, = and they are unparalleled in flexibility. As Hector put it in a recent = workshop: "This is not a toaster... It is a tool to make beautiful = music." Yes, it is. Cheers. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Amenta [mailto:richarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:32 AM To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rodgersorgan] Registrations Anyone know of any lists of suggested registrations for the Rodgers = organs. Other than the factory defaults, the owners manual and the Instant = Organist I can't find any. Any recommendations for untrained old folk like myself for various = styles including=20 church service, baroque, french, etc.? 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