Clay.......Your point of "we can sell at whatever price we want to and you can't do anything about it because if you're not in my region, I won't sell to you." This is something that most people are not aware of, but in the past Rodgers factory made specific dealer territories, and they were NOT to sell outside of that territory, per Rodgers factory! Some dealers did sell outside of their authorized territory, but ONLY after getting Rodgers factory permission to do so, and it was done with in cooperation with the closest dealer. Sales of organs therefore, were NOT like a car or any other item. Because of the individual specific's which differ from church to church and installation to installation, they had to be priced and sold as one organ at a time, almost custom so to speak. In my 23 plus years of selling Rodgers in the past, I can not think of any two installations that had exactly the same equipment and pricing, due to building sizes and acoustic's. Except for a self-contained organ for a home, I never gave out a price quote over the phone. And when pressed by the customer, I would say, "well our 2-manuals range from 20K to 40K, our 3-manuals are from 45K to 80K, and customs are above that; however I would need to see your sanctuary before I could even begin to know what your church needs or what your music program is in your church. Therefore, can I visit with you to discuss this more and see your church....at NO obligation or cost to you!" This always opened many doors for me. I have no idea if this is still true or not concerning dealer territories, and would like to hear from someone who is still a Rodgers authorized dealer on this point. That is just one of the reasons most dealers don't freely give out prices! William Morris, Houston New link to Christmas Music at www.frogmusic.com!