Hi Team! Great fun at the TARC finals in Virginia with the best weather ever! I talked with Trip and Mark B, changing the code to redefine the current model rocket parameters is the likely best course of action. Using TARC and the limits that California places on STEM students is the angle we should use. I also spoke with Marion Blakely and she fully supports this effort and has offered the support of the AIA membership. I've had a good response from my assemblywoman Toni Atkins' office and will meet her chief of staff in San Diego this week. DART member Mike Fuller is a patent attorney here in San Diego. His initial input was that the code was enacted in the 70s as a response to some need. He will research the historical aspect of why and who got the code revised to define model rockets then. Getting it changed will need to take those parties into account. A quick look at the 1970-1974 Estes & Centuri catalogs (THANK YOU ESTES & SVEN!!) Shows that the heaviest rocket kits were the Saturn V's at about 280 grams. 3 Cs would bring it to around 355 grams flight weight. The Omega with the Cineroc might have been more. I am making this my summer project. I will post news as get it. We'll get this done. Ad Astra my friends, Mike Jerauld -- RocketLaws-CA mailing list rocketlaws-ca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx //www.freelists.org/list/rocketlaws-ca