I am definitely also looking forward to it! The q840av is ready for just about anything.
Assuming that I am allowed to connect to the 'net using the powerbook and share the connection to the 840av... I don't need to use the tibook at all during the month challange except for MSNm, Music and Photos.
SO what I'll do is enjoy the printed contactsheets of my photos, and put a bunch of music on CDs or audiocasette tapes, and tell my MSNm buddies to send me an e-mail during that month. :)
On Jun 15, 2006, at 4:14 PM, David Shepherd wrote:
I'm looking forward to it...especially if i have the Apple IIe up and going by then, with software to run on it. :)
On 6/16/06, Goodwin, Greg P. <GoodwinG@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hey anyone still out there? I hope so. Been vamping up my Atari 800 getting ready to use that for a month.
Anyone else looking forward to this too? :)
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-----Original Message-----
From: retrochallenge-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:retrochallenge-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Goodwin, Greg P.
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: retrochallenge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [retrochallenge] Re: Proposed rules ...
If I remember correctly, last year we decided that whatever you could get your computer to do, go for it. We even joked that if could get X to work on the older Macs, go for it! :D
The Atari 800, if I was to limit my OS to a date, would be left without some of the newer operating systems, and that would be a shame. And my 800 is DEFINATELY a retro system.
I propose the following idea:
1) We need to compose a list of all the computers that entered the "race" last year. This will help as we advertise it this year and for a current webpage.
2) Oh yeh, advertising. We have three weeks left. :)
3) Computers can be entered based on processors not to exceed the power or ability of 486 IBM based computers (less than 76 mhz) or pre-powerPC Mac (68040 at less than 67 mhz.)
4) Any software that you can get to run on these computers is acceptable.
5) Any peripheral added to these computers is acceptable, as long as it is not another computer. (ex. having a G4 Mac or a XP Win machine as a virtual drive system for an Atari 8-bit computer. Though the 8-Bit Atari controls the virtual drive setup, a more modern machine is being used.)
6) Hardware upgrades (Memory, speed proformance, etc) are all acceptable until newer processor upgrades are used. In the case of processor upgrades, those can be considered on a case by case basis on how their scoring will be effected or if it can be entered. (Some computers receive a processor upgrade, which might help in speed slightly, but do to how the computer is designed cannot take full advantage of the newer processor's true abilities.)
7) Other services (BBS's, internet services, etc) that the computer can log into are acceptable as long as the services are not run by the individual at home or any computer the individual has access to. A service can be run by a friend (which is a fun way to get others involved in this contest on the sides) so long as the computer is not in a house or any place owned by a person active in the race. This includes a place of work.
(Bottom line, as long as the service is not run by a person in the race, it is fine.)
8) Exception to the above rule, if the service is run on a RETRO COMPUTER, this is not only more than fine, but encouraged. :) (Someone sets up a telnet BBS for all the racers to access with their retro machines (hint hint!!) on say an early Amiga or Mac as an example. Even Atari 8-bits and Commodores could do this.)
9) Racers are encouraged to report in daily with basic points. (only points are needed, though a bit about the experience for others to read would be fun) If three days pass without reporting, they are out of the race.
What do you guys think?
And BTW, I liked the scoring system of last year. Thought that was fairly well thought out.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: retrochallenge-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:retrochallenge-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cory Wiegersma
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:56 AM
To: retrochallenge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [retrochallenge] Re: Proposed rules ...
What about 7.5 or 7.6? ;)
On Jun 11, 2006, at 11:05 PM, David Shepherd wrote:
I assume you would, anyhoo...8.1 isn't exactly what i'd call "retro". :P
On 6/12/06, Cory Wiegersma <cory5412@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I have to keep it under 7.1? I thought that in previous years you were
able to run whatever software you wanted on the machine, solong as the
machine was still the same machine. (i.e. so long as installing 8.1
doesn't suddenly cause your computer to have a powerpc processor ;) )
On Jun 11, 2006, at 5:07 PM, David Shepherd wrote:
> I can't see why it wouldn't be as long as you're running System 7.1.
>
> On 6/11/06, Cory Wiegersma <cory5412@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:Cool. :)
>>
>> Count me in. With the 840av, maybe? (Is it eligible?)
>>
>> I'd like to try a few of the creative challenges on the 840. :)
>>
>> ~Cory
>> On Jun 4, 2006, at 9:19 PM, Byron Q. Desnoyers Winmill wrote:
>>
>> > These rules are much more flexible than they were last year.I'm
>> > taking the attitude that if something goes wrong, we can address
>> > them in next year's rules.If everything goes wonderfully, then
>> > the Challenge will continue to be simple.
>> >
>> > NOTE: that the Endurance now goes by the amount of use of vintage
>> > computers, and not the exclusive use of vintage computers.
>> >
>> > NOTE: the Creative Challenge will now accept work created prior to
>> > the month of July.
>> >
>> > Retrochallenge 2006 Rules (Proposal)
>> > ====================================
>> >
>> > The Endurance
>> > -------------
>> >
>> > The Endurance is created for people who love to use their legacy
>> > computers for just about anything.You earn points based upon the
>> > computers you use, and how much you use them.
>> >
>> > Scoring
>> > ```````
>> > Each day:
>> > - Determine how many points you earned from the table below.Always
>> > select the greatest number of points based on your computer usage:
>> >
>> >8-bit 16-bit 32-bit
>> > At least 30 minutes of use 421
>> > At least 1 hour of use 842
>> >
>> > Month end:
>> > - Calculate the total number of points earned between July 1st and
>> > July 31st.
>> >
>> > Example
>> > ```````
>> > You play games on an Atari 800 for 15 minutes and then write a
>> > program on an Apple IIe for 20 minutes.Seeking some online
>> > enjoyment, you then spend 2 hours surfing the web on your 486.
>> > This means that you spent 35 minutes using 8-bit computers, earning
>> > you 4 points.Your 2 hours of web surfing on a 32-bit computer
>> > earned you 2 points.You select the greatest number of points,
>> > which means that you earn 4 points on the day.
>> >
>> > Creative Challenge
>> > ------------------
>> >
>> > The Creative Challenge allows you to exhibit work created on or for
>> > vintage computers.All entries must include a description of how
>> > it was created.Your entry will be posted on the Retrochallenge
>> > website for other people to enjoy.
>> >
>> > Qualifying Computers
>> > --------------------
>> >
>> > A qualifying computer may have any 8-bit or 16-bit processor.If
>> > it is a 32-bit processor, it must be one of the following:
>> >
>> > 80386, 80486
>> > 68020, 68030, 68040
>> >
>> > Dates
>> > -----
>> >
>> > All entries must be submitted by August 15th, 2006.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
