[redwoodmen] Re: Text files for automation
- From: "Craig Addleman" <c.addleman@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <redwoodmen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:14:13 -0700
Conrad,
To login as an administrator, you need a password. The catch is that you
don't have one yet.
Here's how to login:
Go to //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi. Type in your regular e-mail
address and leave the 2nd field (a field, in case you're not familiar with
that term, is a area where your enter info) blank. Now, the freelist server
will e-mail a message to you, so you need to leave the browser window open,
and go to your e-mail program, find the message from freelists.org, and copy
the authorization code composed of random characters. Then go back to the
browser window and paste that authorization code into the password field,
and click on the password button. The next screen will take you to the Main
Menu screen, where you can set up a password for future logins. Very
important to not forget this password.
In the next week or so, as you explore how this list works, you will
discover that as an admin and as a subscriber, you need to set up a password
for each. Freelists advises using the same password for the sake of
simplicity.
If you still have trouble logging in, call me and I can walk you through
this. Conrad, feel free to call anytime if you're stuck with any of this. I
know it seems complicated but after you hit the 1st speed bumps, it gets
easier.
~craig
-----Original Message-----
From: redwoodmen-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:redwoodmen-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Conrad/Lynn Larkin
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 12:01 AM
To: redwoodmen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [redwoodmen] Re: Text files for automation
To Craig: I could not figure out how to login.
Conrad
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Addleman
To: redwoodmen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 1:18 PM
Subject: [redwoodmen] Text files for automation
Conrad,
Actually there are about 2 dozen files we can edit for automating various
things.
One of them, called the "Closed Subscribe File" is sent in response to a
non-subscriber posting to the list. We could insert a short explanatory
note
about how to subscribe.
(By the way, another way to subscribe is to use the freelist website, at
//www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi, but I don't think it's any
simpler than the method you used to subscribe. Another option is for an
administrator to enter the names of subscribers, manually.)
Some of the other server-side text files would be quite useful. One is a
"FAQ" file that is sent in response to emails with, I believe, "FAQ" in
the
subject line. Another is "Info", and serves a similar purpose. Another is
designed to refuse Spam, and others handle various scenarios such as
sending
a standard response to someone un-subscribing or someone who is being
kicked
off the list.
Decisions should be made concerning these files and other settings before
the list is opened up for general use. And a strategy needs to be devised
on
how to launch the list. At this point, I see my role as being a technical
advisor who has quite a bit of list experience. I don't see myself as a
leader or policy-maker of any sort. And I really don't want to be a
moderator of this list, although I'm happy to stay on as a
co-administrator
in order to help troubleshoot technical issues, at least for the
beginning.
That being said, here are my suggestions:
Either you or an informal core "steering group" should decide what
settings
to use. (I'll work on getting a list of them put together.) When that's
done, enter all the names from the list you gathered at the last Weekend,
and send a welcome message out to all informing them that they have been
subscribed. (I've transcribed the list to a computer file, so it would
take
only a couple of minutes to drop them into the server-side text file.)
If we do it this way, I have two more suggestions, based on several years
of
subscribing to lists:
1. The welcome message should be inspirational, provocative and
stimulating
in order to generate some discussion. It should also describe how to
access
the FAQ and other informational files. Also, subscribers should be
informed
that the list is available in a daily digest format.
2. "Lurking" should be discussed. A lurker (such as myself on most of the
lists I have subscribed to) is someone who rarely contributes to the list
but actively follows it. Lurkers should be made to feel welcome.
Eventually,
hopefully, they'll contribute.
3. If the list is initially quiet, someone in the core steering group will
hopefully jump in and get some energetic discussion going.
4. Most lists die, so the general idea here is to get the list going in a
lively direction at the outset.
I don't have any strong feelings about any of this, other than it would be
nice to see this list take off with some of the energy I've seen at the
Weekends. To that end I'll help with any of the technical or list
management
questions/issues you have.
Also, how do I get in touch with Alan Fitch, I think it's a great idea to
get some list info onto the regular Redwood Men's Center website. The
Freelist folks also offer a web page for our exclusive use, but I don't
see
any benefit since RMC has it's own site already. Feel free to pass on my
phone number to him: 415-454-8616.
~craig
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