[realmusicians] Re: a warm welcome

  • From: DLH <dheilman1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:21:32 -0700

Hi DJX,

The gentleman, on the other list, who was indeed quite hateful in their responses, used the term Spiritual Rapist to exaggerate his point. I understood that he felt any thing that remotely looked like an attempt to share the Gospel would be a violation of his personal Spiritual rights.

Much like the Rapist is an un wanted violator, the fellow in question felt the little that was said about Jesus Christ was too much and was being forced on him against his will etc.

Yeah, this does sound a bit extreme, but he was being extreme, for him, he his obviously had a bad experience with Christians in this past. Never the less, his over reaction should have been handled very quickly, but was not.

I wrote to Midi Mom and suggested that he be suspended, or out right booted from the list because this had not been the first time for his over reacting in such a violent and hateful manner.

She replied telling me that he was being delt with and that she didn't have time for this sort of thing etc.


I could say more, but need to run a get off to work. We can take this off list if you want. Just reply to my personal email.

See ya,

Dave H.

At 07:59 PM 10/6/2009, you wrote:
Actually, I read a lot of the posts and was much displeased and disgusted,
and really had to resist my urges to ask a question that I'll now ask here,
"What is a spiritual rapist?????????????" Cuz I go to Church, my studio is
strictly christian, I play in like a thousand christian bands as well as
lead worship in my church, not to mention another thousand things I do in
ministry... I don't go around talking about all of this, and it's something
that not many people would figure from my posts, but I'm just saying, I want
to make sure I'm not spiritually raping anyone! Any takers? I might even put
the definition that seems the most pleasing to me in the urban dictionary...
Lol... That disrespect was another one of those things that completely
kicked me off the list... Respect everyone and their views on 1 hand, yet
call somebody a spiritual rapist on the other...man! But anyways, I'm done
with this 1, just had to ask my question... Lol...

Eagerly Awaiting an anser, D!J!X! J/K

-----Original Message-----
From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:03 PM
To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [realmusicians] Re: a warm welcome

Hey DLH,

Welcome aboard.

I don't want to harp on this subject on this list, but I didn't find it
laughable or a simple case of someone going overboard after being called a
spiritual rapist, emotional molester, said to be accosting him, and having
him call the death of a friend religious propaganda. To me at least, he went
way beyond the bounds of being a decent human being. He's truly blind to
this world as well as himself and I feel sorry for him. An argument is one
thing. I'll duke it out all day long. But that wasn't an argument. I stayed
very cool through the entire thread while he was like a wild animal lunging
at my throat and conveniently ignoring his own contradictions to himself. It
was a good reflection of one sad aspect of the internet. Most of these folks
would never have the gall to say such things were we face to face. But that
goes with the territory I guess.

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "DLH" <dheilman1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>


> Hi Tom,
>
> <Slight laugh>    Aw, the Midi Mag list wasn't that bad.  I once was the
> moderator of a Religion board for about two or three years.  We had Good
> Christians, reactionary Christians, Foolish Christians, and then we had
> boat loads of Witches, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics,  Taoists,  Buddhists,
> loads of Homosexuals,  and  a lot of others I've forgotten, oh, and one
> Satanist.
>
> It was a very lively group and we would easily have 50 to 200 posts per 24

> hour period.
>
> There were several times when  the fur would really fly fast and furious.
> I thought the Midi Mag up roar was about a 6 on a scale from one to ten.
>
>
> As in all groups, there are the few that just like to stir things up, just

> to see the fur fly as entertainment.
>
> Sadly, and unfortunately, the group that I had the most difficult time
> with was not the  Witches, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics,  Taoists,
> Buddhists, Homosexuals,  or the one Satanist.
>
> Many times, the wrong words are said at the wrong time.
>
> But, I digress here into a topic that has nothing to do with being a real
> musician, and it is not my wish to cause another distraction from music
> and playing it.
>
> In fact, I apologize for saying too much already.
>
> I probably should have sat on my hands again, but I didn't.
>
>
> Dave H.
>
> At 08:26 AM 10/6/2009, you wrote:
>>All I can say, Steph, is Wow! I've been on that list for, I don't know,
>>somewhere between 15 and 20 years and I've never seen it totally
>>self-destruct like this. It's really pretty sad.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steph" <stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>>>Hi there.  I can just imagine and love to hear anything you do.  Very
>>>talented you are.
>>>
>>>Well I've been booted off that list now lol.
>>>Steph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 11:14 PM 10/5/2009 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>Glad to be here.  Climate seems a lot more sunny.  Took a quick look at
>>>>the archive--before it has had a chance to grow to 16,547 messages... I
>>>>tried to open that server for Teamtalk, but that was perhaps not the
>>>>right thing to do, for my system said that "internet Explorer cannot
>>>>open this server" or some such thing.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, just came home from choir practice. We're getting ready for
>>>>Christmas and are doing Carols, some in tricky arrangements.  One of
>>>>them is "Deck the Hall" arranged by David Wilcox in a fugue-like
>>>>counterpoint. I've almost gotten two thirds of it--no recording of that,

>>>>though, anywhere on the net.
>>>>
>>>>I'm also working on a presentation of "rounds, catches, and glees". That

>>>>will be presented by me, and I'll have ten or so singers to help me
>>>>demonstrate the various types of rounds, and we'll have some easy ones
>>>>for audience participation. Preparing audio files and collecting sheet
>>>>music, and making copies, and burning CD's  for that has been pretty
>>>>intense. I've been recording the parts separately and together, so
>>>>people can learn on their own as well as during our rehearsals. We have
>>>>until Nov 7 to get it ready to perform.
>>>>
>>>>Then, there's always the weekly radio show. For a while, I've been
>>>>taking it easy and aired a series I found on the net--Doctor Jekyll and
>>>>Mr. Hyde. Great adaptation by Betty Robertson, and she's turned that
>>>>short story into 53 15-minute episodes. It's saved my life since I got
>>>>back from vacation.  All I've had to do is use a bit of EQ to fix some
>>>>fuzzy passages (vintage sound files, you know), some normalization or
>>>>volume fixes by hand, edit out all these intro and outtros between the
>>>>episodes and make one hour-long one for each Sunday night.
>>>>
>>>>Rob, my partner, also does his own Sunday night show, so we have had to
>>>>turn our sitting-room into a part studio for him, so we don't get in
>>>>each other's hair.
>>>>
>>>>That's more than you wanted to hear from me, but cheers, and looking
>>>>forward to a fun-filled cruise. Maybe I'll finally get up the nerve and
>>>>submit something--I've actually composed an adaptation of "Six Days on
>>>>the Road" based on our traumatic vehicle almost breakdown at several
>>>>stages during our trip home from music camp this August...
>>>>
>>>>Grin,
>>>>
>>>>Gudrun
>>>>At 09:02 PM 10/5/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>The most graceous and sweet natured and creative lady Gudrun has just
>>>>>climbed aboard.
>>>>>
>>>>>Welcome my dear.
>>>>>
>>>>>We've got some nice goodies here like web archives, and a voice chat
>>>>>server that we're working on, it's up and running now but we're not
>>>>>through with it yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a teamtalk server and the host name is
>>>>>
>>>>>realmusicians.slyip.com
>>>>>pw is
>>>>>cattail
>>>>>
>>>>>You can get the software over at
>>>>>http://www.bearware.dk/index.php?pageid=teamtalk
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm going to compile all this useful info in to the welcome message
>>>>>soon, we've only been up a couple days so hang tight, we'll have fun
>>>>>and resurrect the old spirit of love and acceptance which used to be
>>>>>over at you know where 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think Ross mcgregor will come over here, and I just invited DJX,
>>>>>we'll see what happens.
>>>>>
>>>>>Enjoy and I know your over there probably doing 10 things at once
>>>>>'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>>The printers came today and left Julie's inserts, wow you know what
>>>>>those guys did?
>>>>>
>>>>>they gave us more inserts and cut the price in half.
>>>>>
>>>>>Image maker is truly a great company to work with here to do printing,
>>>>>they don't have cd printing yet, I been bugging them about that, but
>>>>>they do very nice inserts and anything else, and they make it easy for
>>>>>blind folks, knotching corners and such and hand deliver stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>There a christian run company, they're actually the print shot for St.
>>>>>Francis Hospital I believe, but they do out of shop stuff too.
>>>>>
>>>>>They're pricing and service is just so good, I almost just don't mind
>>>>>not having the direct on cd printing, but I'd like to find a good
>>>>>option for that at some point, thermal printing seems to be the
>>>>>cheapest and most practical but you know, it's the whole sighted thing,

>>>>>we'll eat that elephant when the demand gets great enough, but so far,
>>>>>so good.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>>Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2415 - Release Date:
>>>>>10/05/09 06:19:00
>>>>
>>>>Gudrun
>>>>Web: gudrunbrunot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
>>>signature database 4484 (20091006) __________
>>>
>>>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>>
>>>http://www.eset.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
> signature database 4485 (20091006) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>


Other related posts: