[realmusicians] Re: WHAT ARE PEOPLE UP TO?
- From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:58:26 -0500
Good! If I do get 1 I'll probably end up making my own styles anyways, but
good to know people like it... It sounds much like my psr2k, from the vidoes
and tours I've seen of it, so the learning curve shouldn't be too big.
Sandy, from what I hear yes, the psr900 has SA voices...
THX, D!J!X!
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[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:45 AM
To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [realmusicians] Re: WHAT ARE PEOPLE UP TO?
I like the S 900. It has some fine guitar voices, and some multi pads that
are usable for rifs. I could use more styles in the folk genre, though, to
steal from or modify. As Sandy says, you use one for one song, but you want
to modify it for another. The manual is, of course, a nightmare to read,
even after I took the .pdf and converted it to Word, so hard to figure out
how to really modify a style. But, boy, does it have some sweet sounds.
I got mine through SweetWater, and they had a 0 interest one-year financing
plan. My time is due in December.
Cheers,
Gudrun
At 02:09 AM 11/12/2009, you wrote:
>Hey Gudrun, how do like the s900? I'm planning to some day, when I
>make enough cash, get 1 or the next model, I think s910...
>
>D!J!X!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
>Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:02 PM
>To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [realmusicians] Re: WHAT ARE PEOPLE UP TO?
>
>Hey, collaborating on a song, that's a fun idea.
>
>I have a Yamaha S 900. So you've managed to modify the style. That's
>what I'm hoping to be able to do, but it would take some hours of
>fine-tuning, plus sighted assistance. I do have my trusty Rob, who is
>very helpful, but I try to minimize the amount of his time I
>consume--you know how fast anybody's times gets swallowed up when you
>try to solve accessibility issues with sound projects...
>
>I do have a few instructions that Steve Spamer sent me on how to set up
>your midi keyboard to interface with the PC and use templates.
> Something I'll need to try, but there, again, a pair of ee'n will be
>necessary...
>
>Best,
>
>Gudrun
>At 12:07 PM 11/11/2009, you wrote:
> >I did indeed use styles. I modified instrumental intros and endings
> >in some cases. I have the Yamaha PSR-3000. What keyboard do you have?
> >The problem is: you quickly run out of styles you want to use, and it
> >wouldn't sound very professional if you were to repeat any of them.
> >There are too many artists whose songs sound just alike. Only the
> >lyrics are different! My dream is to own a Tyros3. Either that, or
> >buy Yamaha's latest and greatest Clavenova.
> >
> >I have an idea... What if we all collaborated on one song? We can
> >all either play an instrument or sing. It's just a thought...
> >
> >At 11:37 AM 11/11/2009 -0800, you wrote:
> >>Sandy, noting what you said about knowing how to hit keys on an
> >>arranger keyboard or something to that effect, did you use the styles?
> >>I have created a few accompaniments using styles, less fleshed out
> >>than yours. I'd be interested in hearing about that and what your
> >>experience has been.
> >>
> >>Gudrun
> >>At 11:09 AM 11/11/2009, you wrote:
> >>>It is in the works, too. I am doing a lot of old hymns along with
> >>>some new songs. I am looking forward to you and Chris helping me
> >>>with
>it!
> >>>
> >>>At 01:03 PM 11/11/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>That's neat Sandy it just happening naturally, everything just
> >>>>falling into place like that. Being taught by someone in that way
> >>>>I mean. You are definitely gifted and look forward to your next album.
> >>>>
> >>>>Steph
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>At 12:47 PM 11/11/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>>I didn't realize I could arrange vocals, until I recorded this
> >>>>>last CD. I sang on Worship teams for years, and picking out my
> >>>>>tenor part came easily for me. (I suspect the Lord had
> >>>>>everything to do with that.) But as far as doing the whole
> >>>>>harmony bit, I didn't think I could do that. One of my dearest
> >>>>>friends was a Worship pastor. He is a wonderful arranger and a
> >>>>>master teacher. It is amazing what a person can learn just by
> >>>>>listening. Don taught me a lot, and I didn't even know he was
teaching me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At 07:54 PM 11/10/2009 -0800, you wrote:
> >>>>>>Me, too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Speaking of new things, I actually have tried my hand at
> >>>>>>directing recently. Don't know if I've mentioned this, but I
> >>>>>>work for a music organization as a project coordinator. We
> >>>>>>produce musical events--concerts, master classes, workshops,
> >>>>>>and, of late, a lecture series called "Formally Yours" where we
> >>>>>>present different types of musical forms. For example, we've had
> >>>>>>a lecture on dance movements in classical music, on sonatas and
> >>>>>>cantatas, on the composer Franz Schubert and his take on love
> >>>>>>and death. I got this idea in my head to do a presentation on
> >>>>>>rounds. I called it "Rounds, Catches, and Glees." I talked
> >>>>>>about different ways in which rounds could be constructed, and
> >>>>>>other types of part singing--cyclical songs found in African
> >>>>>>cultures, quodlibets--(whimsical juxtapositions of several
> >>>>>>familiar tunes that work together) etc. To offer some musical
> >>>>>>illustrations, I gathered up a dozen willing and brave citizens
> >>>>>>of our community, and we rehearsed for six or so evenings.
> >>>>>>There was only me to conduct. I probably did more flailing than
> >>>>>>proper conducting in accordance with proper form at all times,
> >>>>>>but the ensemble stayed together, most of the time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Actually, the director of our chorale wants "The Roundsters" to
> >>>>>>perform something in our Christmas concert. Now, I'm in deep
> >>>>>>water, for I'd like to have us include something new, and
> >>>>>>something that sounds a little bit like the Revels they do in
> >>>>>>the Bay area. You know, the old-English-sounding tunes that
> >>>>>>Tony Berrand and John Roberts do. And here is the crux: I, like
> >>>>>>Sandy, know sort of how to push buttons on an arranger keyboard,
> >>>>>>but I'm not an instrumentalist. Still, I need to ferret out the
> >>>>>>harmonies from the song I have in mind, turn them into parts,
> >>>>>>and then, create something that those who depend on written
> >>>>>>music can learn from. This is since we have very little time to do
this in.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>So, that's my next challenge.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Roundly and soundly,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Gudrun
> >>>>>>At 07:59 PM 11/8/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>Sky Diving? Man you can have that on your own. I fainted whilst
> >>>>>>>reading your email, at the very thought of it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Ross.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kingston"
> >>>>>>><tom.kingston@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:24 PM
> >>>>>>>Subject: [realmusicians] Re: WHAT ARE PEOPLE UP TO?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That's so true, Steph. I went sky-diving several years ago and
> >>>>>>>>it took all but begging, pleading, and putting a gun to the
> >>>>>>>>guys head to let me go. But of course these kind of folks
> >>>>>>>>obviously like taking risks. So I was finally able to talk him in
to it.
> >>>>>>>>What a rush!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Tom
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steph"
> >>>>>>>><stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>AI'd be keen to try find a horse riding club around here but
> >>>>>>>>>they'd probably baby us too much, scared we'd fall off or
> >>>>>>>>>something
>lol.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>t 04:15 PM 11/8/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>Well, it sounds like great fun.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>At 12:28 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>Sometimes it is better not to be able to see! We have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>take our lives into our hands and... just live! If we
> >>>>>>>>>>>could see the stupid things drivers do, I don't think we
> >>>>>>>>>>>would have the courage. I am glad the roads we will be
> >>>>>>>>>>>biking on will be blocked off!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>At 12:26 AM 11/7/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Last time I was on a horse was back in 93, I was half of a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>duo and we played in Daton.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I'd just gotten where I could sequence good with spg for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>dos, and we carted my first computer, a whapping 386 with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>2 megs of ram, 40 meg hard-drive and all our extra modules
> >>>>>>>>>>>>and things on the road.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>computer broke the first night we were there, actually, it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>was fine, but the silly speech synth which was an accent
> >>>>>>>>>>>>pc was rusty, and kroded, must have been dropped in water
> >>>>>>>>>>>>or something, and it froze the system.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Anyway, we got the computer repaired and everything was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>fine for the rest of the 3 week gig.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>One of the waitresses there invited me horse-back riding,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>so I went.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>One thing hilarious about horses is that they just poop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>anywhere they like, on the move too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Here we are clop clopping down the street and I hear this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>big splat behind me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>She was a gentle placid mare and Laury and I rode her all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>afternoon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>My hind end was definitely sore.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>YOU need to develop special muscles to be on a horse all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>the
>time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Buzz my partner chickened out, he was a big wenie about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>some things, very talented, but he said he didn't want to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>get on anything big enough to crush him.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I'd feel less threaten by a horse than a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>non-attention paying motorist trying to dial a cell phone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>put on makeup, and or otherwise occupied rather than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>watching out for my hide trying to cross the street 'grin'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The seat of knowledge would sure get a work-out riding a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>horse, though!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>At 07:15 PM 11/6/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yeh, the horses know where they're going 'grin'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>But not as good for the old cardio and caboose 'grin'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>At 05:37 PM 11/6/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh wow that sounds adventurous. I'd love to do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>something like that or, horse riding.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At 05:18 PM 11/6/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am training for a two-day 160 mile bike ride May 22
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and 23. It is called, Tour de Cure and is sponsored
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by the American Diabetes Association. If anyone is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>interest in donating to the cause, please let me know.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If anyone would be interested in a Podcast of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ride, let me know that, too. I am not sure I will do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it, but if I get enough interest, I just might. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will be riding a tandem with a feisty little lady who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>has rheumatoid arthritis. If she can do it, I know I can!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But... I will need your prayers and support. I have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>never done anything like this in my life!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chris and Steph, have you guys got my songs for my CD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on your server? Should we let the group listen to one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or two of them? Whichever ones you like will be fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Could you give a download link for your favorites? If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of you want a copy, they are $10.00 plus $3.00 for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shipping and handling. Sorry for the shameless
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>advertisement, but we gotta make money, somehow. By
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the way, Chris did a wonderful job mastering the CD.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is called, You Light The Way.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, Steph... you did ask what we were up to!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(Grin.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At 02:55 PM 11/6/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wondering what people are up
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to musically?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Life is busy in the Belle household right now. We are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>currently working on a Christmas album and tomorrow
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we have a group coming to talk about putting an album
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>together. It's great to see work starting to come in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and we haven't advertised yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My job is to keep meals coming and ocasionally help
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>backing vocals etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Always interested to hear what others are doing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Steph
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandy Licht Turn right, then go
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>straight!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you, says the Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>peace and not for evil, to give you hope in your final
outcome.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and pray to Me, and I will hear and heed you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me [as a vital necessity] and find Me when you search
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Me with all your heart.(A)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will release you from captivity and gather you from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the nations and all the places to which I have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring you back
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the place from which I caused you to be carried away
captive.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandy Licht Turn right, then go straight!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>says the Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and peace
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>and not for evil, to give you hope in your final outcome.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pray to Me, and I will hear and heed you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [as a vital necessity] and find Me when you search for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Me with all your heart.(A)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> release you from captivity and gather you from all the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nations and all the places to which I have driven you,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> says the Lord, and I will bring you back to the place
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> from which I caused you to be carried away captive.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sandy Licht Turn right, then go straight!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you,
> >>>>>>>>>>>says the Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and peace and
> >>>>>>>>>>>not for evil, to give you hope in your final outcome.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and
> >>>>>>>>>>> pray to Me, and I will hear and heed you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me
> >>>>>>>>>>> [as a vital necessity] and find Me when you search for Me
> >>>>>>>>>>> with all your heart.(A)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will
> >>>>>>>>>>> release you from captivity and gather you from all the
> >>>>>>>>>>> nations and all the places to which I have driven you,
> >>>>>>>>>>> says the Lord, and I will bring you back to the place from
> >>>>>>>>>>> which I caused you to be carried away captive.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>Gudrun
> >>>>>>Web: gudrunbrunot.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sandy Licht
> >>>>>Turn right, then go straight!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you, says the
> >>>>>Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and peace and not for evil,
> >>>>>to give you hope in your final outcome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and pray to
> >>>>> Me, and I will hear and heed you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me [as a
> >>>>> vital necessity] and find Me when you search for Me with all
> >>>>> your
> >>>>> heart.(A)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will release
> >>>>> you from captivity and gather you from all the nations and all
> >>>>> the places to which I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will
> >>>>> bring you back to the place from which I caused you to be
> >>>>> carried away captive.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Check out what we do: www.affordablestudioservices.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sandy Licht
> >>>Turn right, then go straight!
> >>>
> >>> Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible)
> >>>
> >>>11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you, says the
> >>>Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and peace and not for evil, to
> >>>give you hope in your final outcome.
> >>>
> >>> 12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and pray to
> >>> Me, and I will hear and heed you.
> >>>
> >>> 13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me [as a
> >>> vital necessity] and find Me when you search for Me with all your
> >>> heart.(A)
> >>>
> >>> 14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will release
> >>> you from captivity and gather you from all the nations and all the
> >>> places to which I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring
> >>> you back to the place from which I caused you to be carried away
>captive.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>11/11/09 07:40:00
> >>
> >>Gudrun
> >>Web: gudrunbrunot.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Sandy Licht
> >Turn right, then go straight!
> >
> > Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible)
> >
> >11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you, says the
> >Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and peace and not for evil, to
> >give you hope in your final outcome.
> >
> > 12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and pray to Me,
> > and I will hear and heed you.
> >
> > 13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me [as a vital
> > necessity] and find Me when you search for Me with all your
> > heart.(A)
> >
> > 14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will release you
> > from captivity and gather you from all the nations and all the
> > places to which I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring
> > you back to the place from which I caused you to be carried away
captive.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
>Gudrun
>Web: gudrunbrunot.com
>
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