[realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?

  • From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 02:47:53 -0500

Yea, SBB and Blue and I think even Predator now use it.

D!J!X! 

-----Original Message-----
From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:22 AM
To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?

Elicenser was a troublemaker too.
Rob Papen used it on the early SubBoomBass and got many complaints from paid
customers.

On 11/24/2011 2:03 AM, D!J!X! wrote:
> Well that's it, this code meeter program is probably in charge of 
> keeping the code encrypted so that hackers can't hack memory registers 
> or inject variables to memory, it also probably keeps the files locked 
> to a certain callback mechanism,  and knowing these dongle type 
> protections, probably keep constantly using the dongle to decrypt 
> certain parts of the program at runtime. It also always stays on to 
> ensure that you do have a legit dongle plugged in.
> That's why these types of protections suck big time!
>
> Some people I've heard of go and buy such software that uses pace or 
> syncrosoft/eLicenser, only to come home and download cracked versions 
> to run, just so they don't have to deal with all the nonsense of the 
> hardware protection.
> Roomour has it that some group while back even compared systems with 
> cracked copies vs. systems with legit hardware copies, and it is said 
> that specially on systems using syncrosoft's protection, the system 
> went faster and ran better with the hacked version of the plug-in!
> Now not sure if it's true or not, but it is then said that syncrosoft 
> paid this group of hackers major bucks to shut their mouth and stop 
> exploiting their stuff; this was because they wanted steinberg to 
> purchase their protection system. It's said that's why hypersonic 
> wasn't the great thing they expected, because though it was popular, 
> many were using a hacked version of the software, for some legit and
others not so legit reasons.
> That's why around 2006-7 e-licenser/syncrosoft2 was made for newer 
> steinberg stuff, and why they never bothered with hs again.
> So it's a crazy world out there.
> My ethical hacking classes proved to be useful in many areas. :)
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:49 PM
> To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?
>
> You got to hunt down each anti piracy remnant, like exterminating vermin.
> I had to do that with that Pace antipiracy, after trying M-Audio 
> ProTools, which wasn't even accessible anyway.
> Now, I got the license, for Reason 6; so I'm not gonna steal it, so 
> why can't the anti piracy go away in my computer.
> It can see I got the dongle in the USB port.
> They call it an ignition key.
> If I put an ignition key into a car, the car doesn't go on alert to 
> learn if I am the real owner when  I put the key in.
> In Crysler mini vans, like we have, they all look alike, with hundreds 
> of teel green ones, and there are only a dozen or so different keys, 
> so many times folks walk out of the super market and get into somebody 
> else's teel green mini van, and drive away.
> Somewhere along the line they look around and say; I don't remember 
> that kids car seat in the back, and where did that diaper bag come from?
> I don't even have a kid!
> Then they drive it back to the parking lot and sheepishly  find their 
> own mini van, before the cops get there. smile.
> So, look how much less the car cares who puts the ignition key in, and 
> Reason only costs $300 or so, and the company is so paranoid about the 
> wrong person using it, while the car might cost $15,000., and doesn't 
> care who drives it! smile.
> Indigo L
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> On 11/23/2011 11:18 PM, D!J!X! wrote:
>> The code meeter, yes reason puts it there, and no it doesn't 
>> uninstall it at all, I don't mean halfway or something, the code 
>> meeter system is running, services and all, even after reason is 
>> uninstalled. What's more, there's nowhere on the add/remove prog or 
>> an uninstall file in the program folder for it to be removed...
>> Those kinds of apps I definitely stay away from...
>>
>> D!J!X!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:13 PM
>> To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?
>>
>> I think reason put it there, when I ghosted, it went away, I didn't 
>> pay too close attention, but I think reason did some funny things to 
>> my
> system.
>>
>> I'm thinking maybe spectrasonics might be the better way to go.
>>
>> But reason does have some fun stuff in it.
>>
>>
>> At 09:23 AM 11/23/2011, you wrote:
>>> You're right, DX, I've also noticed that Code Metering system on 
>>> both the Windows 7 and XP machine, not that I can say it's slowing 
>>> the system, but I hear those words Code Metering often when booting 
>>> or closing down.
>>> It's one of those dratted anti piracy systems, like Pace Lock, or 
>>> whatever its name is, that burrows deeply into the system.
>>> There is a good example of when to use CCleaner on the registry, so 
>>> it can find all orphaned files and other leftovers from uninstall of 
>>> Reason., possibly even leftovers of Code Metering or Pace anti piracy.
>>> My specs, second generation I7 2600, 3.4 ghz, turbos to 3.8 ghz, 
>>> with
>>> 8 gigs ddr3 ram, 1.5 TB 7200 rpm hard drive, MCI 7680MI motherboard.
>>> ZT Systems supplies full Windows 7 on disk, plus the full MCI 
>>> motherboard manual.
>>> That motherboard has its own turbo boost, called Genie OC, I still 
>>> haven't found which button on the case does the ghz boost, if it's 
>>> hooked up from the motherboard, or how high the ghz would go if I 
>>> used Genie OC.
>>> Indigo L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/22/2011 11:48 PM, D!J!X! wrote:
>>>> Not to start a war here, but have you  configured and optimized
>>>> windows7 for daw use? Also, what are your system specs?
>>>>
>>>> Actually one of reason's new drawbacks is that protection system 
>>>> they're now using; it runs this code meeter service, which has 
>>>> these sparatic spikes from time to time, not to mention, it won't 
>>>> let go of your system, even after uninstalling reason and everything
else...
>>>> On one of my test systems, a pentium dual core, the system 
>>>> continually ran slow until I restored my preReason6 installation image.
>>>> I've been meaning to try it on xp, as I did the tests on win7, both
>>>> x86 and 64.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, D!J!X!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:44 PM
>>>> To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?
>>>>
>>>> No crackling on the I7 machine running any of those Reason demo 
>>>> songs, plus playing along with them from midi keyboard.
>>>> System restore is still on on that machine, but I turned it off 
>>>> years ago on the slow old music machine I'm not worrying about 
>>>> excess latency or anything else on the new 64 bit I7, because in a 
>>>> little longer I'll put Windows XP Pro on a Samsung F3 and I'll be 
>>>> back in happy hog heaven; back on stable XP and good old 
>>>> predictable WindowEyes
>> 6.1, but on a more powerful machine.
>>>> I had no problem whatsoever getting 5 ms latency, even 3ms, on both 
>>>> the Emu PCI sound card and the PCIE Emu 1616m, on that slow old 
>>>> machine, which played 1 or 2 of Reason 6's devices just fine, it 
>>>> just couldn't cope with those demo songs, where 5 or 6 devices are 
>>>> running
>> simultaneously.
>>>> I had fewer glitches in 32 bits Reason 6 than I do on a new 
>>>> computer with many times more power.
>>>> I'm not impressed with the stability of Win7 64.
>>>> it reminds me of my friend's 700 horsepower supercharged Corvette.
>>>> It might go 200 miles an hour, but his car went through a set of 
>>>> crankshaft bearings in a week.
>>>> How impractical is that?
>>>> Sorry, maybe I'll become a Mennonite, the horse and buggy approach 
>>>> is more peaceful. smile.
>>>> Indigo L
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/2011 8:18 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>> Indie, if your worried about crackling and latency in your audio 
>>>>> though you might want it off on your music machines, it's 
>>>>> something to
>>>> consider.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why bog a race horse down with a sumo wrestler if you don't have 
>>>>> to
>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if you like it, then it's golden.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 07:00 PM 11/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>> I'm not going to worry about System Restore being a resource hog, 
>>>>>> it saved me more than once now, and these four and 8 core 
>>>>>> machines are still plenty fast enough with System Restore running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/22/2011 2:27 PM, Jack Conti wrote:
>>>>>>> Tell you what it has bailed me out about three times over the 
>>>>>>> last
>> year.
>>>>>>> windows just simply screws up sometimes and just bringing mhy 
>>>>>>> system back a day helped. it even fixed a window eyes issue for me
>>>>>>> since i di a couple bad things<smile>    At 02:19 PM 11/22/2011, you
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I don't have system restore running all the time as it's a 
>>>>>>>> resource hog.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not really the same thing as an image, only backs up 
>>>>>>>> certain files, it's a half assed microsoft thing no serious it
> person uses it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, let's say would depend on it for a real backup.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 12:14 PM 11/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Can't you do a system restore, back a couple of days, before 
>>>>>>>>> all this mess hit the fan?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2011 1:05 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You too huh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I lost my we 7.2 disk temporarily while the studio was 
>>>>>>>>>> being built, so even though I owned window-eyes through 2 
>>>>>>>>>> sma's a good friend of mine lent me an iso so I could enjoy 
>>>>>>>>>> the dubious pleasures of being a paying beta tester 'grin'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess that's what we are with all this software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've come to the conclusion that we 7.2 was pretty good 
>>>>>>>>>> especially after the refresh, then after all the furniture 
>>>>>>>>>> was moved around it took a nose dive again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't have the luxury of having the option to go back to
>>>>>>>>>> 751 and use my own copy of we.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After I found my copy burried in a box someplace, I guess I 
>>>>>>>>>> didn't imediately rectify putting my own on all the machines, 
>>>>>>>>>> and so, I'm out of luck.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This all happened at the time when I felt I was really 
>>>>>>>>>> treated badly by gwmicro, booted unsarimoniously off the beta 
>>>>>>>>>> team because I stood up to Doug because all he wanted to hear 
>>>>>>>>>> about at the time were scripting issues, and I felt there 
>>>>>>>>>> were important issues with the core functionallity of we not 
>>>>>>>>>> being delt
>> with.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So i didn't feel like asking for another disk and handing 
>>>>>>>>>> over 20 bucks, petty I know, but it really hurt at the time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't care anymore, I think these access companies are all 
>>>>>>>>>> the same, some a little better than others, but when you run 
>>>>>>>>>> a business, the bottom line is making a living.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doug's going to make a whole lot more money selling new 
>>>>>>>>>> copies of window-eyes for as long as he can, and these little 
>>>>>>>>>> devices which he can resell and not have to baby-sit too 
>>>>>>>>>> much, and the writing's on the wall, with w8 coming out with 
>>>>>>>>>> a pretty good narrator, the mac coming on strong, and these 
>>>>>>>>>> little screen-readers like nvda being nearly as good as the 
>>>>>>>>>> big guys for more work a day tasks, I think the screen-reader 
>>>>>>>>>> landscape is gonna change and the survivors will have to do 
>>>>>>>>>> something different.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It won't be tomorrow, but
>>>>>>>>>> you know even fs has lowered their price for an sma, and they 
>>>>>>>>>> never do that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Guess they're feeling the pinch too, so many blind folks 
>>>>>>>>>> buying macs now, and or using the free stuff?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The cavvy course through sisco that Stephie is taking 
>>>>>>>>>> recommended nvda over jaws or window-eyes and you would be 
>>>>>>>>>> very supprised at how good that little reader is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the only thing it lacks is direct pixel control of where to 
>>>>>>>>>> place the mouse, you can't move by delta values yet, but it 
>>>>>>>>>> will read much stuff that is silent to window-eyes, 
>>>>>>>>>> especially in windows 7.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How is it that a little free or donation supported screen 
>>>>>>>>>> reader can be so stable and work so well, when the big guys 
>>>>>>>>>> are so troublesome?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it the bloat factor?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think therecomes a time with any software when it reaches a 
>>>>>>>>>> critical mass and then as features are piled on, and old code 
>>>>>>>>>> isn't updated or taken out, it becomes less stable, 
>>>>>>>>>> responsive, and buggy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And I'm no programmer, but I know enough to know how 
>>>>>>>>>> difficult and elusive these things can be, especially with 
>>>>>>>>>> low level stuff, and the ever changing target of how to even 
>>>>>>>>>> hook in to operating systems, dcm, mirror drivers, ui and the 
>>>>>>>>>> whole nasty
> mess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so I don't think it's malice, I think gwmicro is trying to 
>>>>>>>>>> survive, like a friend of mine pointed out, neglect and 
>>>>>>>>>> disrespect can be mistaken for quiet desperation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doug's got a payroll to make.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> also, there's been a lot of personallity turn over over there 
>>>>>>>>>> it seems to me and one of the main programmers died too right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so, it would probably take a new programmer a lot of time to 
>>>>>>>>>> come up to speed with what is going on rather than someone 
>>>>>>>>>> who's worked intimately with window-eyes through it's birth 
>>>>>>>>>> and maturity and now it's cancerous degeneration 'grin', 
>>>>>>>>>> sorry, just having a little fun, don't get too mad at me Tom.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> let's hope a little chemo therapy and prayer will bring it 
>>>>>>>>>> back and some super smarts like you have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Boy, I'm writing this message with jaws, and notice I'm 
>>>>>>>>>> getting no missed typing characters which has always plagued 
>>>>>>>>>> me with window-eyes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know I get in a hurry and make mistakes, but I'm a pretty 
>>>>>>>>>> good typer, if a lousy speller, but I get far more mistakes 
>>>>>>>>>> trying to type with window-eyes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No matter what I do, this never went away with any of my
hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A friend of mine kids me that I'm using too good hardware and 
>>>>>>>>>> I need to use amd chips as he's a fan of amd stuff, it's a 
>>>>>>>>>> friendly little thing we do, well, it's a wonder with all the 
>>>>>>>>>> crap that the pc world has to deal with that any of this 
>>>>>>>>>> stuff works at all, and works as well as it does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope my personal observations and candid monologue on my 
>>>>>>>>>> personal experiences doesn't offend anyone, it sure wasn't 
>>>>>>>>>> meant
> to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My wife is using jaws almost exclusively now as she's more in 
>>>>>>>>>> to the office stuff and it's a know fact that fs has been 
>>>>>>>>>> ahead in that regard for years, much as we wouldn't want to 
>>>>>>>>>> admit it and as much work as gwmicro has done with special 
>>>>>>>>>> tweaks
> for office.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where window-eyes still shines is exploring new apps, seeing 
>>>>>>>>>> tool tips, and general exploration especially with the older 
>>>>>>>>>> operating systems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I was creating session drummer 3 hotspot clicker sets 
>>>>>>>>>> for jaws I kept bouncing back to window-eyes to see what was 
>>>>>>>>>> under the
>>>> mouse.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jaws will do this too, but it's a bit more clunky, 
>>>>>>>>>> window-eyes mouse navigation is more natural and immediate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, if I have to make a choice, there will always be demo 
>>>>>>>>>> copies of we around, and maybe we 8 will be the magic bean 
>>>>>>>>>> third time's the charm right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> here's hoping.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My heart always goes out to the under dog, the little 
>>>>>>>>>> company, and there is still a little bit of that left at 
>>>>>>>>>> gwmicro, not much, but they are marginally better to deal 
>>>>>>>>>> with than FS, I hope all of that doesn't go away.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But it's a terrible strain to maintain kindness and patience 
>>>>>>>>>> when you've got a zillion blind folks yammering at you, and 
>>>>>>>>>> more and more pressure put on just a few people, and I 
>>>>>>>>>> understand this, but we dish out our money so we can do our 
>>>>>>>>>> work, and we should have the right to expect results.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, mnot only have I not gotten results, but what I had to 
>>>>>>>>>> begin with has been lessened, and made more troublesome to use.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So what can I say?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Probably nothing more of value at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> blessing everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 10:5
>>>>>>>>>> 9 AM 11/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> It's okay Tom, problems solved.
>>>>>>>>>>> I got a system restore back 2 days, before this disaster; so 
>>>>>>>>>>> now I have Wineyes 7.5.1 again.
>>>>>>>>>>> I wasted time trying to install 7.5.1 on top of 7.5.2 and 
>>>>>>>>>>> got a message that some hook or the other could not be set, 
>>>>>>>>>>> so lost speech at that point, but my wife did the restore.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2011 9:19 AM, Tom Kingston wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure Show advanced options is on under the help menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open the keyboard node and cursor down once to the voice node.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then tab once for the speak options.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never had any problem with the backspace key.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just tried Ctrl-Shift-R and got the same result as you. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> never noticed because I've never used it in a composition 
>>>>>>>>>>>> window
>>>> before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2011 8:30 AM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just looked in the control panel, and that old setting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of speak characters, or whole words as you type seems not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be there any more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next I'm going to get off the thunderbird.000 set file, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it might be a new one they developed for 7.5.2; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not the one I had developed myself in 7.5.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do notice small improvements in thunderbird, the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> backspace is more reliable, but the old read to end 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcut
>>>>>>>>>>>>> control+shift+R now only reads the single sentence I'm on, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> control+shift+and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not to the end, as before..
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish I could type that blithring idiot noise the Three 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stooges used, you know, where you make a noise with your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mouth as youflip across your lips with a finger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's how I feel typing in this madness! smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2011 1:59 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe it's something to do with keyboard settings; will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To:<realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Help
> Me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, Roy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same double repeating with and without apps running.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not just speaking the character I just typed, or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the word, but the sentence I'm typing, cumulatively, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the first word to the cursor position, instantly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the very nanosecond I pause typing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where is the setting to turn off speaking of typed words 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the W E control panel, do you know?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to know, but can't find it in this wonderful tree 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view control panel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigo L.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2011 12:03 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it have a script for ThunderBird?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if so , when setting the scripting status to Manual , 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does this go away?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To:<realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [realmusicians] Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, here I am in the first moments with the new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7.5.2 upgrade, and it's utter chaos in my Thunderbird.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is reading every line twice immediately after I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type even a single character, never did that before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel like I'm in some huge cave, with an echo 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeating every thing I say!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I pressed the enter key to begin the upgrade, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> felt just like I do at the doctors, beginning some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure that could either take the disease away or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take my life, and all I can do is submit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I gotta go into the tree structure of the once 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy Winize control panel and try to find a setting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that will shut down this maddening double echo One 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing about hearing everything twice, I sure have no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt about what I've written. smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, 
>>>>>>>>>> visit us at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com or contact Chris Belle 
>>>>>>>>>> cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or Stephie Belle 
>>>>>>>>>> stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx for customized web design
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, 
>>>>>>>> visit us at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com or contact Chris Belle 
>>>>>>>> cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or Stephie Belle 
>>>>>>>> stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx for customized web design
>>>>>
>>>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit 
>>>>> us at
>>>>>
>>>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>>> or contact
>>>>> Chris Belle
>>>>> cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> or
>>>>> Stephie Belle
>>>>> stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> for customized web design
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us 
>> at
>>
>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>> or contact
>> Chris Belle
>> cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> or
>> Stephie Belle
>> stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> for customized web design
>>
>>
>>
>>
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