[realmusicians] Re: Hard drives and Hard question?

  • From: Indigo <33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:38:20 -0500

If I select the onboard sound as the default audio everything comes out the onboard sound. I didn't need to chase down each little program and tell it to send its output to the Emu sound card, first time I installed the sound card. I think the difference is I got sighted help disabling onboard audio in the bios, installed the sound card and got it functioning properly, then got sighted help again re enabling onboard audio in the bios. Hired readers and wives are not always the same experience for sighted help. smile.

Indigo L


On 11/26/2011 12:21 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
Set the sound and audio hardware to use the realtech card or whatever as
the default card, and then check the box to use only default devices.

It's the third tab over in the sounds and audio in control pannel in xp.


At 12:24 AM 11/26/2011, you wrote:
Well, after considering putting in those caddies, or SATA docking
stations, in the bottom 3 bays of the new computer, I took the case
side off today, un snapped one side of the plastic face plate to get a
look at how much work would be involved in opening those interior bays
at the front to install caddy slash docking stations down there, and
it would require way way too much work!
The case front plate has an interior air passage to bring cool air to
the drive bays, plus there's the power button and reset button in the
way.
Now I realize only a single caddy in the empty bay below the DVD drive
will be sufficient.
I want Reason 6 and its Code Meter on its own drive, with its data on
a partition of that drive, and I wish I could partition Windoweyes off
as well, to protect it from Code Meter.
No way do I want to have Sonar, Reaper, or, sound forge, or anything
else on the same drive with Code Meter around.
I haven't given up on Reason 6, just realize how damaging Code meter
can be.
I had a total lockup with my week old machine, had to shut down with
the power button; and the brandnew computer is not quite as quick or
nice feeling as before.
I don't really care, it's just a lesson what can happen, I'll do the
clean install of XP Pro over Windows 7 64 in the next few days.
I'll try to pick up a reasonably fast hard drive, 350 gigs should do,
and put Reason 6 and WindowEyes 6.1 alone onto it.
I ran Reason 6 on XP with WE 6.1 for weeks with no oddities or
lockups, like I got on Win7 64 and Wineyes 7.5.1, just using them a
couple of days.
Maybe Sonar 8.5.3 and Sound Forge also deserve their own smaller hard
drive, with data on the interior 1.5 Tb interior drive.

I'm scared of code meter now, and don't even want Reason data on
another drive, just a partition of the same drive.

Can I ask something?
It's been years since I set up the old XP machine, installed the Emu
PCI card and got it going with only speech coming out the RealTech
onboard sound, and all music and midi playing on Winamp, all music
from GoldWave, whatever, coming out the Emu card.
Now I can't rediscover how I did it
Yes, I know in Reaper and Sonar you configure audio out to your choice
of audio device in their options preferences, but can't find that in
Winamp, GoldWave, and especially not in WindowEyes 6.1..
When I look in control panel, Sound, Audio, I find three sections.
1 sets the default playback device, Emu or RealTech.
2 says music playback, Emu and RealTech.
3 is midi playback, Emu port 00 or Microsoft Wave Player.
If I choose either Emu or RealTech as that is the default playback
device, and no matter how I set section 2 and 3, or if I check or
uncheck use only preferred device; everything comes out whichever
sound source I select for the Default playback device.

Okay, sonar and reaper no problem,I'll configure them, I'd like Winamp
to come out the Emu card, and how the heck do I get Winize 6.1 to come
out the onboard sound by itself?
Thanks,
Indigo L



On 11/25/2011 11:16 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
Ah my friends know me so well.

It's not a matter of being so organized though, it's a matter of I just
can't be bothered doing all that extra work trying to find the needle in
the haystack.

If you ever get in to disk imaging, you'll kick your self wondering why
you didn't ever do that before, because it's so easy.

Even if you don't get the dos level thingy and just do dvds or an
external drive and have Hanah help you choose your image to back up,
your talking minutes to get a clean system as aposed to hours of fooling
around.

I like disk imaging because I'm lazy and want the easiest simplest way
to clean up.

I don't wan to bother with save mode, and trying register cleaners, only
to find it screwed up something else, only to find this dll got replaced
with the one I wanted, only to find that mal-ware is still lurking blah
blah blah 'grin'.

My friend showed me how to use ghost years ago by memorizing keystrokes,
and then we learned to use batch files.

then we got image fir windows dos and linux and life became a lot
easier.

Oh, it goes back further than that, roxio or easy cd creator used to
make a program called take 2, which even let you image to the same drive
you were backing up.

It sometimes didn't work so well, but it was accessible in dos.

Boy that beat the shit out of begging someone to come over and help me
with a windows install.

man, and it was even worse in those days because there weren't any
standards mis put some stuf in to place with xp where any old program
couldn't overwrite important dll's, atleast in some regards, but back in
the dark ages of win98, any program could over-write a newer dll with an
older one, and create a huge mess and conflicts.

So w98 was pretty junky anyway,
but it wouldn't stay stable like xp will for month at a time especially
if you did lots of experimenting and such like I know you like to do.

and botched driver installations, like my first usb cable modem which
was usb, well, take 2 saved my ass because I had to go in to save mode
according to tech support to fix that issue.

But of course, we didin't have speech in save mode.

Well, I think with some speech synths with early window-eyes we did, but
I didn't know about it at the time.

But take 2 put things to rights.

so i was sold on disk imaging since then and it just got better with
ghost and other programs that have come along through the years.

About the easiest
user oriented non-techy imaging program you could use would be casper,
it's not the safest, but it's windows oriented and just makes a copy of
your drive to another drive.

But you are vulernable to viruses and such unless you have a way to wipe
your drive you want to re-image back to.

But casper is fun and easy to use.

Once I made a quad boot xp system with 4 different xp installs on one
drive,
one with window-eyes, onewith caketalking, one with jsonar, and one vfor
just junking around.

But since then I've thought it better to separate my operating systems
on separate physical drives rather than all together.
for the reasons outlined above.



At 07:01 PM 11/25/2011, you wrote:
Chris Belle is gonna say; learn to image your computer; which is so
true.
For us less organized folks, I go around to the places these anti
piracy systems store their files.
First, I'd look in Program Files, to learn if Reason left its program
folder there after un installation.
If it did, I'd delete that PropellerHeads folder.
Then, I'd go to users, or Documents and Settings in XP, and go to all
users shown, 1 at a time, and look under App Settings for any folders
with either Code Meter, Reason, or PropellerHeads as their title, and
delete them.
Same for Local Settings if you find that folder.
Make sure in App Data to look under each folder, Local, Local O and
Roaming.
Okay, after that I'd back out of users, and go to windows RegEdit.
This is what I would do, not advice to you, so if you're scared of
editing your registry, stay out of RegEdit.
For me only, I'd go to HKEY local user and HKEY local machine, then
arrow down to software, find the Code Meter folder, and delete it.
Same with any PropellerHeads or Reason folders.
After all that, I'd run CCleaner, both to clean up hidden temp files
and to clean orphan entries from the registry.

Some day I'm gonna learn to image; about the same time I grow golden
wings and get a halo.
I hope they give me a golden harp to pick and strum; and don't mind if
I do bends sometimes; and let me switch off to tenor sax.

Okay, if anybody knows any other places in a PC that Code Meter, or
Pace Lock, or Synchrosoft, might hide its evil minions, please tell us
all.
Thanks,
Indigo L


L

On 11/25/2011 7:04 PM, Jack Conti wrote:
well then how do we get it out of there <smile>
At 11:18 PM 11/23/2011, you wrote:
The code meeter, yes reason puts it there, and no it doesn't
uninstall
it at
all, I don't mean halfway or something, the code meeter system is
running,
services and all, even after reason is uninstalled. What's more,
there's
nowhere on the add/remove prog or an uninstall file in the program
folder
for it to be removed...
Those kinds of apps I definitely stay away from...

D!J!X!

-----Original Message-----
From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:13 PM
To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?

I think reason put it there, when I ghosted, it went away, I didn't
pay too
close attention, but I think reason did some funny things to my
system.

I'm thinking maybe spectrasonics might be the better way to go.

But reason does have some fun stuff in it.


At 09:23 AM 11/23/2011, you wrote:
>You're right, DX, I've also noticed that Code Metering system on
both
>the Windows 7 and XP machine, not that I can say it's slowing the
>system, but I hear those words Code Metering often when booting or
>closing down.
>It's one of those dratted anti piracy systems, like Pace Lock, or
>whatever its name is, that burrows deeply into the system.
>There is a good example of when to use CCleaner on the registry,
so it
>can find all orphaned files and other leftovers from uninstall of
>Reason., possibly even leftovers of Code Metering or Pace anti
piracy.
>My specs, second generation I7 2600, 3.4 ghz, turbos to 3.8 ghz,
with 8
>gigs ddr3 ram, 1.5 TB 7200 rpm hard drive, MCI 7680MI motherboard.
>ZT Systems supplies full Windows 7 on disk, plus the full MCI
>motherboard manual.
>That motherboard has its own turbo boost, called Genie OC, I still
>haven't found which button on the case does the ghz boost, if it's
>hooked up from the motherboard, or how high the ghz would go if I
used
>Genie OC.
>Indigo L
>
>
>
>
>On 11/22/2011 11:48 PM, D!J!X! wrote:
>>Not to start a war here, but have you configured and optimized
>>windows7 for daw use? Also, what are your system specs?
>>
>>Actually one of reason's new drawbacks is that protection system
>>they're now using; it runs this code meeter service, which has
these
>>sparatic spikes from time to time, not to mention, it won't let
go of
>>your system, even after uninstalling reason and everything else...
>>On one of my test systems, a pentium dual core, the system
continually
>>ran slow until I restored my preReason6 installation image.
>>I've been meaning to try it on xp, as I did the tests on win7, both
>>x86 and 64.
>>
>>Regards, D!J!X!
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:44 PM
>>To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?
>>
>>No crackling on the I7 machine running any of those Reason demo
songs,
>>plus playing along with them from midi keyboard.
>>System restore is still on on that machine, but I turned it off
years
>>ago on the slow old music machine I'm not worrying about excess
>>latency or anything else on the new 64 bit I7, because in a little
>>longer I'll put Windows XP Pro on a Samsung F3 and I'll be back in
>>happy hog heaven; back on stable XP and good old predictable
WindowEyes
6.1, but on a more powerful machine.
>>I had no problem whatsoever getting 5 ms latency, even 3ms, on both
>>the Emu PCI sound card and the PCIE Emu 1616m, on that slow old
>>machine, which played 1 or 2 of Reason 6's devices just fine, it
just
>>couldn't cope with those demo songs, where 5 or 6 devices are
running
simultaneously.
>>I had fewer glitches in 32 bits Reason 6 than I do on a new
computer
>>with many times more power.
>>I'm not impressed with the stability of Win7 64.
>>it reminds me of my friend's 700 horsepower supercharged Corvette.
>>It might go 200 miles an hour, but his car went through a set of
>>crankshaft bearings in a week.
>>How impractical is that?
>>Sorry, maybe I'll become a Mennonite, the horse and buggy
approach is
>>more peaceful. smile.
>>Indigo L
>>
>>
>>On 11/22/2011 8:18 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>Indie, if your worried about crackling and latency in your audio
>>>though you might want it off on your music machines, it's
something
>>>to
>>consider.
>>>
>>>Why bog a race horse down with a sumo wrestler if you don't
have to
>>'grin'.
>>>
>>>But if you like it, then it's golden.
>>>
>>>
>>>At 07:00 PM 11/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>>I'm not going to worry about System Restore being a resource
hog, it
>>>>saved me more than once now, and these four and 8 core
machines are
>>>>still plenty fast enough with System Restore running.
>>>>
>>>>On 11/22/2011 2:27 PM, Jack Conti wrote:
>>>>>Tell you what it has bailed me out about three times over the
last
year.
>>>>>windows just simply screws up sometimes and just bringing mhy
>>>>>system back a day helped. it even fixed a window eyes issue
for me
>>>>>since i di a couple bad things<smile> At 02:19 PM 11/22/2011,
you
wrote:
>>>>>>I don't have system restore running all the time as it's a
>>>>>>resource hog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's not really the same thing as an image, only backs up
certain
>>>>>>files, it's a half assed microsoft thing no serious it person
uses it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, let's say would depend on it for a real backup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 12:14 PM 11/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>Can't you do a system restore, back a couple of days,
before all
>>>>>>>this mess hit the fan?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 11/22/2011 1:05 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>>>You too huh?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, I lost my we 7.2 disk temporarily while the studio was
>>>>>>>>being built, so even though I owned window-eyes through 2
sma's
>>>>>>>>a good friend of mine lent me an iso so I could enjoy the
>>>>>>>>dubious pleasures of being a paying beta tester 'grin'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I guess that's what we are with all this software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've come to the conclusion that we 7.2 was pretty good
>>>>>>>>especially after the refresh, then after all the furniture
was
>>>>>>>>moved around it took a nose dive again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I didn't have the luxury of having the option to go back
to 751
>>>>>>>>and use my own copy of we.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>After I found my copy burried in a box someplace, I guess I
>>>>>>>>didn't imediately rectify putting my own on all the machines,
>>>>>>>>and so, I'm out of luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This all happened at the time when I felt I was really
treated
>>>>>>>>badly by gwmicro, booted unsarimoniously off the beta team
>>>>>>>>because I stood up to Doug because all he wanted to hear
about
>>>>>>>>at the time were scripting issues, and I felt there were
>>>>>>>>important issues with the core functionallity of we not being
delt
with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So i didn't feel like asking for another disk and handing
over
>>>>>>>>20 bucks, petty I know, but it really hurt at the time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't care anymore, I think these access companies are all
the
>>>>>>>>same, some a little better than others, but when you run a
>>>>>>>>business, the bottom line is making a living.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Doug's going to make a whole lot more money selling new
copies
>>>>>>>>of window-eyes for as long as he can, and these little
devices
>>>>>>>>which he can resell and not have to baby-sit too much, and
the
>>>>>>>>writing's on the wall, with w8 coming out with a pretty good
>>>>>>>>narrator, the mac coming on strong, and these little
>>>>>>>>screen-readers like nvda being nearly as good as the big guys
>>>>>>>>for more work a day tasks, I think the screen-reader
landscape
>>>>>>>>is gonna change and the survivors will have to do something
>>>>>>>>different.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It won't be tomorrow, but
>>>>>>>>you know even fs has lowered their price for an sma, and they
>>>>>>>>never do that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Guess they're feeling the pinch too, so many blind folks
buying
>>>>>>>>macs now, and or using the free stuff?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The cavvy course through sisco that Stephie is taking
>>>>>>>>recommended nvda over jaws or window-eyes and you would be
very
>>>>>>>>supprised at how good that little reader is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the only thing it lacks is direct pixel control of where to
>>>>>>>>place the mouse, you can't move by delta values yet, but it
will
>>>>>>>>read much stuff that is silent to window-eyes, especially in
>>>>>>>>windows 7.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How is it that a little free or donation supported screen
reader
>>>>>>>>can be so stable and work so well, when the big guys are so
>>>>>>>>troublesome?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it the bloat factor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think therecomes a time with any software when it reaches a
>>>>>>>>critical mass and then as features are piled on, and old code
>>>>>>>>isn't updated or taken out, it becomes less stable,
responsive,
>>>>>>>>and buggy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And I'm no programmer, but I know enough to know how
difficult
>>>>>>>>and elusive these things can be, especially with low level
>>>>>>>>stuff, and the ever changing target of how to even hook in to
>>>>>>>>operating systems, dcm, mirror drivers, ui and the whole
nasty
mess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>so I don't think it's malice, I think gwmicro is trying to
>>>>>>>>survive, like a friend of mine pointed out, neglect and
>>>>>>>>disrespect can be mistaken for quiet desperation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Doug's got a payroll to make.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>also, there's been a lot of personallity turn over over
there it
>>>>>>>>seems to me and one of the main programmers died too right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>so, it would probably take a new programmer a lot of time to
>>>>>>>>come up to speed with what is going on rather than someone
who's
>>>>>>>>worked intimately with window-eyes through it's birth and
>>>>>>>>maturity and now it's cancerous degeneration 'grin', sorry,
just
>>>>>>>>having a little fun, don't get too mad at me Tom.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>let's hope a little chemo therapy and prayer will bring it
back
>>>>>>>>and some super smarts like you have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Boy, I'm writing this message with jaws, and notice I'm
getting
>>>>>>>>no missed typing characters which has always plagued me with
>>>>>>>>window-eyes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know I get in a hurry and make mistakes, but I'm a pretty
good
>>>>>>>>typer, if a lousy speller, but I get far more mistakes
trying to
>>>>>>>>type with window-eyes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No matter what I do, this never went away with any of my
hardware.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A friend of mine kids me that I'm using too good hardware
and I
>>>>>>>>need to use amd chips as he's a fan of amd stuff, it's a
>>>>>>>>friendly little thing we do, well, it's a wonder with all the
>>>>>>>>crap that the pc world has to deal with that any of this
stuff
>>>>>>>>works at all, and works as well as it does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hope my personal observations and candid monologue on my
>>>>>>>>personal experiences doesn't offend anyone, it sure wasn't
meant to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My wife is using jaws almost exclusively now as she's more
in to
>>>>>>>>the office stuff and it's a know fact that fs has been
ahead in
>>>>>>>>that regard for years, much as we wouldn't want to admit
it and
>>>>>>>>as much work as gwmicro has done with special tweaks for
office.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Where window-eyes still shines is exploring new apps, seeing
>>>>>>>>tool tips, and general exploration especially with the older
>>>>>>>>operating systems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>When I was creating session drummer 3 hotspot clicker sets
for
>>>>>>>>jaws I kept bouncing back to window-eyes to see what was
under
>>>>>>>>the
>>mouse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jaws will do this too, but it's a bit more clunky,
window-eyes
>>>>>>>>mouse navigation is more natural and immediate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, if I have to make a choice, there will always be demo
>>>>>>>>copies of we around, and maybe we 8 will be the magic bean
third
>>>>>>>>time's the charm right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>here's hoping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My heart always goes out to the under dog, the little
company,
>>>>>>>>and there is still a little bit of that left at gwmicro, not
>>>>>>>>much, but they are marginally better to deal with than FS, I
>>>>>>>>hope all of that doesn't go away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But it's a terrible strain to maintain kindness and patience
>>>>>>>>when you've got a zillion blind folks yammering at you, and
more
>>>>>>>>and more pressure put on just a few people, and I understand
>>>>>>>>this, but we dish out our money so we can do our work, and we
>>>>>>>>should have the right to expect results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, mnot only have I not gotten results, but what I had to
>>>>>>>>begin with has been lessened, and made more troublesome to
use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So what can I say?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably nothing more of value at this point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>blessing everyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At 10:5
>>>>>>>>9 AM 11/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>It's okay Tom, problems solved.
>>>>>>>>>I got a system restore back 2 days, before this disaster; so
>>>>>>>>>now I have Wineyes 7.5.1 again.
>>>>>>>>>I wasted time trying to install 7.5.1 on top of 7.5.2 and
got a
>>>>>>>>>message that some hook or the other could not be set, so
lost
>>>>>>>>>speech at that point, but my wife did the restore.
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>Indigo L
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 11/22/2011 9:19 AM, Tom Kingston wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Make sure Show advanced options is on under the help menu.
>>>>>>>>>>Open the keyboard node and cursor down once to the voice
node.
>>>>>>>>>>Then tab once for the speak options.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I've never had any problem with the backspace key.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I just tried Ctrl-Shift-R and got the same result as you. I
>>>>>>>>>>never noticed because I've never used it in a composition
>>>>>>>>>>window
>>before.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hth,
>>>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 11/22/2011 8:30 AM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>I just looked in the control panel, and that old
setting of
>>>>>>>>>>>speak characters, or whole words as you type seems not
to be
>>>>>>>>>>>there any more.
>>>>>>>>>>>Next I'm going to get off the thunderbird.000 set file,
>>>>>>>>>>>because it might be a new one they developed for 7.5.2;
and
>>>>>>>>>>>not the one I had developed myself in 7.5.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>I do notice small improvements in thunderbird, the
backspace
>>>>>>>>>>>is more reliable, but the old read to end shortcut
>>>>>>>>>>>control+shift+R now only reads the single sentence I'm on,
>>>>>>>>>>>control+shift+and
>>>>>>>>>>>not to the end, as before..
>>>>>>>>>>>I wish I could type that blithring idiot noise the Three
>>>>>>>>>>>Stooges used, you know, where you make a noise with your
>>>>>>>>>>>mouth as youflip across your lips with a finger.
>>>>>>>>>>>that's how I feel typing in this madness! smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>Indigo L
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On 11/21/2011 1:59 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>maybe it's something to do with keyboard settings; will
>>>>>>>>>>>>further look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>Roy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo"
>>>>>>>>>>>><33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>To:<realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god
Help Me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nope, Roy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Same double repeating with and without apps running.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's not just speaking the character I just typed, or
the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>word, but the sentence I'm typing, cumulatively, from
the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>first word to the cursor position, instantly the very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>nanosecond I pause typing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Where is the setting to turn off speaking of typed
words in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the W E control panel, do you know?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I used to know, but can't find it in this wonderful tree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>view control panel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Indigo L.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 11/21/2011 12:03 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>does it have a script for ThunderBird?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if so , when setting the scripting status to Manual ,
does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this go away?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Roy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To:<realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [realmusicians] Running Winize 7.5.2, god
Help Me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Okay, here I am in the first moments with the new
Winize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7.5.2 upgrade, and it's utter chaos in my Thunderbird.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is reading every line twice immediately after I
type
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>even a single character, never did that before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I feel like I'm in some huge cave, with an echo
repeating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>every thing I say!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When I pressed the enter key to begin the upgrade, I
felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just like I do at the doctors, beginning some
procedure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that could either take the disease away or take my
life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and all I can do is submit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now I gotta go into the tree structure of the once
easy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Winize control panel and try to find a setting that
will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shut down this maddening double echo One thing about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hearing everything twice, I sure have no doubt about
what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've written. smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Indigo L
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For all your audio production needs and technology training,
>>>>>>>>visit us at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>>>>>>or contact
>>>>>>>>Chris Belle
>>>>>>>>cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>Stephie Belle
>>>>>>>>stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>for customized web design
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For all your audio production needs and technology training,
visit
>>>>>>us at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>>>>or contact
>>>>>>Chris Belle
>>>>>>cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>Stephie Belle
>>>>>>stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>for customized web design
>>>
>>>For all your audio production needs and technology training,
visit us
>>>at
>>>
>>>www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>>or contact
>>>Chris Belle
>>>cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>or
>>>Stephie Belle
>>>stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>for customized web design
>>>
>>
>>

For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit
us at

www.affordablestudioservices.com
or contact
Chris Belle
cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
Stephie Belle
stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
for customized web design

For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us at

www.affordablestudioservices.com
or contact
Chris Belle
cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
Stephie Belle
stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
for customized web design


For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us at

www.affordablestudioservices.com
or contact
Chris Belle
cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
Stephie Belle
stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
for customized web design



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