No, the only way (as I mentioned in the other Email) is by shutting off the task scheduler, but that's not a good idea. HTH, D!J!X! -----Original Message----- From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:04 AM To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [realmusicians] Configuring DAW With DX Is there a Windows 7 setting to prevent the idle mode kicking in every ten minutes? One of the first configurations I always do is to set the power plan to always on, and, of course, no screen saver, but I didn't find other sorts of idle mode timing plans. Indigo L On 11/23/2011 12:02 AM, D!J!X! wrote: > If running win 7 I'd recommend using the windows backup to make images > of the entire system as oppose to system restore. > That use of the drive at the most crucial times can prove to be > harmful to a recording in progress. Say for example you're recording a > music piece that last quite a while, after 10 mins or so windows kicks > to idol mode, and stuff like win defender, autodefrags, system restore > checkpoints, all that starts to run as it thinks you're not using the system. > > HTH, D!J!X! > > -----Original Message----- > From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:19 PM > To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me? > > I don't have system restore running all the time as it's a resource hog. > > It's not really the same thing as an image, only backs up certain > files, it's a half assed microsoft thing no serious it person uses it. > > Well, let's say would depend on it for a real backup. > > > At 12:14 PM 11/22/2011, you wrote: >> Can't you do a system restore, back a couple of days, before all this >> mess hit the fan? >> >> On 11/22/2011 1:05 PM, Chris Belle wrote: >>> You too huh? >>> >>> Well, I lost my we 7.2 disk temporarily while the studio was being >>> built, so even though I owned window-eyes through 2 sma's a good >>> friend of mine lent me an iso so I could enjoy the dubious pleasures >>> of being a paying beta tester 'grin'. >>> >>> I guess that's what we are with all this software. >>> >>> I've come to the conclusion that we 7.2 was pretty good especially >>> after the refresh, then after all the furniture was moved around it >>> took a nose dive again. >>> >>> I didn't have the luxury of having the option to go back to 751 and >>> use my own copy of we. >>> >>> After I found my copy burried in a box someplace, I guess I didn't >>> imediately rectify putting my own on all the machines, and so, I'm >>> out of luck. >>> >>> This all happened at the time when I felt I was really treated badly >>> by gwmicro, booted unsarimoniously off the beta team because I stood >>> up to Doug because all he wanted to hear about at the time were >>> scripting issues, and I felt there were important issues with the >>> core functionallity of we not being delt with. >>> >>> So i didn't feel like asking for another disk and handing over 20 >>> bucks, petty I know, but it really hurt at the time. >>> >>> I don't care anymore, I think these access companies are all the >>> same, some a little better than others, but when you run a business, >>> the bottom line is making a living. >>> >>> Doug's going to make a whole lot more money selling new copies of >>> window-eyes for as long as he can, and these little devices which he >>> can resell and not have to baby-sit too much, and the writing's on >>> the wall, with w8 coming out with a pretty good narrator, the mac >>> coming on strong, and these little screen-readers like nvda being >>> nearly as good as the big guys for more work a day tasks, I think >>> the screen-reader landscape is gonna change and the survivors will >>> have to do something different. >>> >>> It won't be tomorrow, but >>> you know even fs has lowered their price for an sma, and they never >>> do that. >>> >>> Guess they're feeling the pinch too, so many blind folks buying macs >>> now, and or using the free stuff? >>> >>> The cavvy course through sisco that Stephie is taking recommended >>> nvda over jaws or window-eyes and you would be very supprised at how >>> good that little reader is. >>> >>> the only thing it lacks is direct pixel control of where to place >>> the mouse, you can't move by delta values yet, but it will read much >>> stuff that is silent to window-eyes, especially in windows 7. >>> >>> How is it that a little free or donation supported screen reader can >>> be so stable and work so well, when the big guys are so troublesome? >>> >>> Is it the bloat factor? >>> >>> I think therecomes a time with any software when it reaches a >>> critical mass and then as features are piled on, and old code isn't >>> updated or taken out, it becomes less stable, responsive, and buggy. >>> >>> And I'm no programmer, but I know enough to know how difficult and >>> elusive these things can be, especially with low level stuff, and >>> the ever changing target of how to even hook in to operating >>> systems, dcm, mirror drivers, ui and the whole nasty mess. >>> >>> so I don't think it's malice, I think gwmicro is trying to survive, >>> like a friend of mine pointed out, neglect and disrespect can be >>> mistaken for quiet desperation. >>> >>> Doug's got a payroll to make. >>> >>> also, there's been a lot of personallity turn over over there it >>> seems to me and one of the main programmers died too right? >>> >>> so, it would probably take a new programmer a lot of time to come up >>> to speed with what is going on rather than someone who's worked >>> intimately with window-eyes through it's birth and maturity and now >>> it's cancerous degeneration 'grin', sorry, just having a little fun, >>> don't get too mad at me Tom. >>> >>> let's hope a little chemo therapy and prayer will bring it back and >>> some super smarts like you have. >>> >>> Boy, I'm writing this message with jaws, and notice I'm getting no >>> missed typing characters which has always plagued me with window-eyes. >>> >>> I know I get in a hurry and make mistakes, but I'm a pretty good >>> typer, if a lousy speller, but I get far more mistakes trying to >>> type with window-eyes. >>> >>> No matter what I do, this never went away with any of my hardware. >>> >>> A friend of mine kids me that I'm using too good hardware and I need >>> to use amd chips as he's a fan of amd stuff, it's a friendly little >>> thing we do, well, it's a wonder with all the crap that the pc world >>> has to deal with that any of this stuff works at all, and works as >>> well as it does. >>> >>> Hope my personal observations and candid monologue on my personal >>> experiences doesn't offend anyone, it sure wasn't meant to. >>> >>> My wife is using jaws almost exclusively now as she's more in to the >>> office stuff and it's a know fact that fs has been ahead in that >>> regard for years, much as we wouldn't want to admit it and as much >>> work as gwmicro has done with special tweaks for office. >>> >>> Where window-eyes still shines is exploring new apps, seeing tool >>> tips, and general exploration especially with the older operating systems. >>> >>> When I was creating session drummer 3 hotspot clicker sets for jaws >>> I kept bouncing back to window-eyes to see what was under the mouse. >>> >>> Jaws will do this too, but it's a bit more clunky, window-eyes mouse >>> navigation is more natural and immediate. >>> >>> Well, if I have to make a choice, there will always be demo copies >>> of we around, and maybe we 8 will be the magic bean third time's the >>> charm > right? >>> >>> here's hoping. >>> >>> My heart always goes out to the under dog, the little company, and >>> there is still a little bit of that left at gwmicro, not much, but >>> they are marginally better to deal with than FS, I hope all of that >>> doesn't go away. >>> >>> But it's a terrible strain to maintain kindness and patience when >>> you've got a zillion blind folks yammering at you, and more and more >>> pressure put on just a few people, and I understand this, but we >>> dish out our money so we can do our work, and we should have the >>> right to expect results. >>> >>> Well, mnot only have I not gotten results, but what I had to begin >>> with has been lessened, and made more troublesome to use. >>> >>> So what can I say? >>> >>> Probably nothing more of value at this point. >>> >>> blessing everyone. >>> >>> >>> At 10:5 >>> 9 AM 11/22/2011, you wrote: >>>> It's okay Tom, problems solved. >>>> I got a system restore back 2 days, before this disaster; so now I >>>> have Wineyes 7.5.1 again. >>>> I wasted time trying to install 7.5.1 on top of 7.5.2 and got a >>>> message that some hook or the other could not be set, so lost >>>> speech at that point, but my wife did the restore. >>>> Thanks for your help, >>>> Indigo L >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/22/2011 9:19 AM, Tom Kingston wrote: >>>>> Make sure Show advanced options is on under the help menu. Open >>>>> the keyboard node and cursor down once to the voice node. Then tab >>>>> once for the speak options. >>>>> >>>>> I've never had any problem with the backspace key. >>>>> >>>>> I just tried Ctrl-Shift-R and got the same result as you. I never >>>>> noticed because I've never used it in a composition window before. >>>>> >>>>> Hth, >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> On 11/22/2011 8:30 AM, Indigo wrote: >>>>>> I just looked in the control panel, and that old setting of speak >>>>>> characters, or whole words as you type seems not to be there any more. >>>>>> Next I'm going to get off the thunderbird.000 set file, because >>>>>> it might be a new one they developed for 7.5.2; and not the one I >>>>>> had developed myself in 7.5.1. >>>>>> I do notice small improvements in thunderbird, the backspace is >>>>>> more reliable, but the old read to end shortcut control+shift+R >>>>>> now only reads the single sentence I'm on, and not to the end, as before.. >>>>>> I wish I could type that blithring idiot noise the Three Stooges >>>>>> used, you know, where you make a noise with your mouth as youflip >>>>>> across your lips with a finger. >>>>>> that's how I feel typing in this madness! smile. >>>>>> Indigo L >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/21/2011 1:59 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote: >>>>>>> maybe it's something to do with keyboard settings; will further look. >>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>> Roy. >>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: >>>>>>> "Indigo"<33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx> To:<realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:44 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope, Roy. >>>>>>>> Same double repeating with and without apps running. >>>>>>>> It's not just speaking the character I just typed, or the word, >>>>>>>> but the sentence I'm typing, cumulatively, from the first word >>>>>>>> to the cursor position, instantly the very nanosecond I pause typing. >>>>>>>> Where is the setting to turn off speaking of typed words in the >>>>>>>> W E control panel, do you know? >>>>>>>> I used to know, but can't find it in this wonderful tree view >>>>>>>> control panel. >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Indigo L. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/21/2011 12:03 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote: >>>>>>>>> does it have a script for ThunderBird? >>>>>>>>> if so , when setting the scripting status to Manual , does >>>>>>>>> this go away? >>>>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>>>> Roy. >>>>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" >>>>>>>>> <33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> To:<realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:48 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: [realmusicians] Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Okay, here I am in the first moments with the new Winize >>>>>>>>>> 7.5.2 upgrade, and it's utter chaos in my Thunderbird. >>>>>>>>>> It is reading every line twice immediately after I type even >>>>>>>>>> a single character, never did that before. >>>>>>>>>> I feel like I'm in some huge cave, with an echo repeating >>>>>>>>>> every thing I say! >>>>>>>>>> When I pressed the enter key to begin the upgrade, I felt >>>>>>>>>> just like I do at the doctors, beginning some procedure that >>>>>>>>>> could either take the disease away or take my life, and all I >>>>>>>>>> can do is submit. smile. >>>>>>>>>> Now I gotta go into the tree structure of the once easy >>>>>>>>>> Winize control panel and try to find a setting that will shut >>>>>>>>>> down this maddening double echo One thing about hearing >>>>>>>>>> everything twice, I sure have no doubt about what I've written. smile. >>>>>>>>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry! >>>>>>>>>> Indigo L >>> >>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit >>> us at >>> >>> www.affordablestudioservices.com >>> or contact >>> Chris Belle >>> cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> or >>> Stephie Belle >>> stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> for customized web design >>> > > For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us > at > > www.affordablestudioservices.com > or contact > Chris Belle > cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > or > Stephie Belle > stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > for customized web design > > > >