[realmusicians] Re: Configuring DAW With DX

  • From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:39:45 -0500

No, the only way (as I mentioned in the other Email) is by shutting off the
task scheduler, but that's not a good idea. 


-----Original Message-----
From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:04 AM
To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [realmusicians] Configuring DAW With DX

Is there a Windows 7 setting to prevent the idle mode kicking in every ten
One of the first configurations I always do is to set the power plan to
always on, and, of course, no screen saver, but I didn't find other sorts of
idle mode timing plans.
Indigo L

On 11/23/2011 12:02 AM, D!J!X! wrote:
> If running win 7 I'd recommend using the windows backup to make images 
> of the entire system as oppose to system restore.
> That use of the drive at the most crucial times can prove to be 
> harmful to a recording in progress. Say for example you're recording a 
> music piece that last quite a while, after 10 mins or so windows kicks 
> to idol mode, and stuff like win defender, autodefrags, system restore 
> checkpoints, all that starts to run as it thinks you're not using the
> HTH, D!J!X!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:19 PM
> To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?
> I don't have system restore running all the time as it's a resource hog.
> It's not really the same thing as an image, only backs up certain 
> files, it's a half assed microsoft thing no serious it person uses it.
> Well, let's say would depend on it for a real backup.
> At 12:14 PM 11/22/2011, you wrote:
>> Can't you do a system restore, back a couple of days, before all this 
>> mess hit the fan?
>> On 11/22/2011 1:05 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>> You too huh?
>>> Well, I lost my we 7.2 disk temporarily while the studio was being 
>>> built, so even though I owned window-eyes through 2 sma's a good 
>>> friend of mine lent me an iso so I could enjoy the dubious pleasures 
>>> of being a paying beta tester 'grin'.
>>> I guess that's what we are with all this software.
>>> I've come to the conclusion that we 7.2 was pretty good especially 
>>> after the refresh, then after all the furniture was moved around it 
>>> took a nose dive again.
>>> I didn't have the luxury of having the option to go back to 751 and 
>>> use my own copy of we.
>>> After I found my copy burried in a box someplace, I guess I didn't 
>>> imediately rectify putting my own on all the machines, and so, I'm 
>>> out of luck.
>>> This all happened at the time when I felt I was really treated badly 
>>> by gwmicro, booted unsarimoniously off the beta team because I stood 
>>> up to Doug because all he wanted to hear about at the time were 
>>> scripting issues, and I felt there were important issues with the 
>>> core functionallity of we not being delt with.
>>> So i didn't feel like asking for another disk and handing over 20 
>>> bucks, petty I know, but it really hurt at the time.
>>> I don't care anymore, I think these access companies are all the 
>>> same, some a little better than others, but when you run a business, 
>>> the bottom line is making a living.
>>> Doug's going to make a whole lot more money selling new copies of 
>>> window-eyes for as long as he can, and these little devices which he 
>>> can resell and not have to baby-sit too much, and the writing's on 
>>> the wall, with w8 coming out with a pretty good narrator, the mac 
>>> coming on strong, and these little screen-readers like nvda being 
>>> nearly as good as the big guys for more work a day tasks, I think 
>>> the screen-reader landscape is gonna change and the survivors will 
>>> have to do something different.
>>> It won't be tomorrow, but
>>> you know even fs has lowered their price for an sma, and they never 
>>> do that.
>>> Guess they're feeling the pinch too, so many blind folks buying macs 
>>> now, and or using the free stuff?
>>> The cavvy course through sisco that Stephie is taking recommended 
>>> nvda over jaws or window-eyes and you would be very supprised at how 
>>> good that little reader is.
>>> the only thing it lacks is direct pixel control of where to place 
>>> the mouse, you can't move by delta values yet, but it will read much 
>>> stuff that is silent to window-eyes, especially in windows 7.
>>> How is it that a little free or donation supported screen reader can 
>>> be so stable and work so well, when the big guys are so troublesome?
>>> Is it the bloat factor?
>>> I think therecomes a time with any software when it reaches a 
>>> critical mass and then as features are piled on, and old code isn't 
>>> updated or taken out, it becomes less stable, responsive, and buggy.
>>> And I'm no programmer, but I know enough to know how difficult and 
>>> elusive these things can be, especially with low level stuff, and 
>>> the ever changing target of how to even hook in to operating 
>>> systems, dcm, mirror drivers, ui and the whole nasty mess.
>>> so I don't think it's malice, I think gwmicro is trying to survive, 
>>> like a friend of mine pointed out, neglect and disrespect can be 
>>> mistaken for quiet desperation.
>>> Doug's got a payroll to make.
>>> also, there's been a lot of personallity turn over over there it 
>>> seems to me and one of the main programmers died too right?
>>> so, it would probably take a new programmer a lot of time to come up 
>>> to speed with what is going on rather than someone who's worked 
>>> intimately with window-eyes through it's birth and maturity and now 
>>> it's cancerous degeneration 'grin', sorry, just having a little fun, 
>>> don't get too mad at me Tom.
>>> let's hope a little chemo therapy and prayer will bring it back and 
>>> some super smarts like you have.
>>> Boy, I'm writing this message with jaws, and notice I'm getting no 
>>> missed typing characters which has always plagued me with window-eyes.
>>> I know I get in a hurry and make mistakes, but I'm a pretty good 
>>> typer, if a lousy speller, but I get far more mistakes trying to 
>>> type with window-eyes.
>>> No matter what I do, this never went away with any of my hardware.
>>> A friend of mine kids me that I'm using too good hardware and I need 
>>> to use amd chips as he's a fan of amd stuff, it's a friendly little 
>>> thing we do, well, it's a wonder with all the crap that the pc world 
>>> has to deal with that any of this stuff works at all, and works as 
>>> well as it does.
>>> Hope my personal observations and candid monologue on my personal 
>>> experiences doesn't offend anyone, it sure wasn't meant to.
>>> My wife is using jaws almost exclusively now as she's more in to the 
>>> office stuff and it's a know fact that fs has been ahead in that 
>>> regard for years, much as we wouldn't want to admit it and as much 
>>> work as gwmicro has done with special tweaks for office.
>>> Where window-eyes still shines is exploring new apps, seeing tool 
>>> tips, and general exploration especially with the older operating
>>> When I was creating session drummer 3 hotspot clicker sets for jaws 
>>> I kept bouncing back to window-eyes to see what was under the mouse.
>>> Jaws will do this too, but it's a bit more clunky, window-eyes mouse 
>>> navigation is more natural and immediate.
>>> Well, if I have to make a choice, there will always be demo copies 
>>> of we around, and maybe we 8 will be the magic bean third time's the 
>>> charm
> right?
>>> here's hoping.
>>> My heart always goes out to the under dog, the little company, and 
>>> there is still a little bit of that left at gwmicro, not much, but 
>>> they are marginally better to deal with than FS, I hope all of that 
>>> doesn't go away.
>>> But it's a terrible strain to maintain kindness and patience when 
>>> you've got a zillion blind folks yammering at you, and more and more 
>>> pressure put on just a few people, and I understand this, but we 
>>> dish out our money so we can do our work, and we should have the 
>>> right to expect results.
>>> Well, mnot only have I not gotten results, but what I had to begin 
>>> with has been lessened, and made more troublesome to use.
>>> So what can I say?
>>> Probably nothing more of value at this point.
>>> blessing everyone.
>>> At 10:5
>>> 9 AM 11/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>> It's okay Tom, problems solved.
>>>> I got a system restore back 2 days, before this disaster; so now I 
>>>> have Wineyes 7.5.1 again.
>>>> I wasted time trying to install 7.5.1 on top of 7.5.2 and got a 
>>>> message that some hook or the other could not be set, so lost 
>>>> speech at that point, but my wife did the restore.
>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>> Indigo L
>>>> On 11/22/2011 9:19 AM, Tom Kingston wrote:
>>>>> Make sure Show advanced options is on under the help menu. Open 
>>>>> the keyboard node and cursor down once to the voice node. Then tab 
>>>>> once for the speak options.
>>>>> I've never had any problem with the backspace key.
>>>>> I just tried Ctrl-Shift-R and got the same result as you. I never 
>>>>> noticed because I've never used it in a composition window before.
>>>>> Hth,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> On 11/22/2011 8:30 AM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>> I just looked in the control panel, and that old setting of speak 
>>>>>> characters, or whole words as you type seems not to be there any
>>>>>> Next I'm going to get off the thunderbird.000 set file, because 
>>>>>> it might be a new one they developed for 7.5.2; and not the one I 
>>>>>> had developed myself in 7.5.1.
>>>>>> I do notice small improvements in thunderbird, the backspace is 
>>>>>> more reliable, but the old read to end shortcut control+shift+R 
>>>>>> now only reads the single sentence I'm on, and not to the end, as
>>>>>> I wish I could type that blithring idiot noise the Three Stooges 
>>>>>> used, you know, where you make a noise with your mouth as youflip 
>>>>>> across your lips with a finger.
>>>>>> that's how I feel typing in this madness! smile.
>>>>>> Indigo L
>>>>>> On 11/21/2011 1:59 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>>> maybe it's something to do with keyboard settings; will further
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: 
>>>>>>> "Indigo"<33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx> To:<realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?
>>>>>>>> Nope, Roy.
>>>>>>>> Same double repeating with and without apps running.
>>>>>>>> It's not just speaking the character I just typed, or the word, 
>>>>>>>> but the sentence I'm typing, cumulatively, from the first word 
>>>>>>>> to the cursor position, instantly the very nanosecond I pause
>>>>>>>> Where is the setting to turn off speaking of typed words in the 
>>>>>>>> W E control panel, do you know?
>>>>>>>> I used to know, but can't find it in this wonderful tree view 
>>>>>>>> control panel.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Indigo L.
>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2011 12:03 PM, Roy Shtupler wrote:
>>>>>>>>> does it have a script for ThunderBird?
>>>>>>>>> if so , when setting the scripting status to Manual , does 
>>>>>>>>> this go away?
>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>> Roy.
>>>>>>>>> http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo"
>>>>>>>>> <33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To:<realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:48 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [realmusicians] Running Winize 7.5.2, god Help Me?
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, here I am in the first moments with the new Winize 
>>>>>>>>>> 7.5.2 upgrade, and it's utter chaos in my Thunderbird.
>>>>>>>>>> It is reading every line twice immediately after I type even 
>>>>>>>>>> a single character, never did that before.
>>>>>>>>>> I feel like I'm in some huge cave, with an echo repeating 
>>>>>>>>>> every thing I say!
>>>>>>>>>> When I pressed the enter key to begin the upgrade, I felt 
>>>>>>>>>> just like I do at the doctors, beginning some procedure that 
>>>>>>>>>> could either take the disease away or take my life, and all I 
>>>>>>>>>> can do is submit. smile.
>>>>>>>>>> Now I gotta go into the tree structure of the once easy 
>>>>>>>>>> Winize control panel and try to find a setting that will shut 
>>>>>>>>>> down this maddening double echo One thing about hearing 
>>>>>>>>>> everything twice, I sure have no doubt about what I've written.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
>>>>>>>>>> Indigo L
>>> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit 
>>> us at
>>> www.affordablestudioservices.com
>>> or contact
>>> Chris Belle
>>> cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> or
>>> Stephie Belle
>>> stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> for customized web design
> For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us 
> at
> www.affordablestudioservices.com
> or contact
> Chris Belle
> cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> or
> Stephie Belle
> stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> for customized web design

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