But Reggie? If he had Kitt, what's to worry about? Duyahn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reginald George" <adapt@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:14 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new > Oh Robert, if you are driving I'm staying the hell off the road! LOL. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Beach > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:02 AM > To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new > > I agree with you completely. I'm even the same way about a new car model > or > major change to an existing model change. Let the first year go and wait > for the refined version. > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > 913-288-7671 > rbeach@xxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of blindbites > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:08 AM > To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new > > I'm never in a hurry to switch operating systems. I like to wait at least > a > year and let those first set of bugs and security holes get worked out. > This > also gives the screen reader companies time to get things working > smoothly. > Some people will run out there, install that newest beta, install the most > recent update to a program just because it has a new number or letter > after > the name, only to find out it doesn't do what someone needs it to do and > at > the worst, messes everything up. Sure, its exciting to be on the edge of > the > latest and greatest, but that comes with a price. > Steve > > > On 5/23/2012 8:58 AM, Reginald George wrote: >> And you should be worried. Someone said Windows 8 is like bolting a >> toaster on to a refrigerator. It's their phone/tablet operating >> system, and their desktop operating system, all mashed together. >> >> I haven't read this anywhere, but I think the new Narrator stole a lot >> of it's command structure directly from Voiceover on the Mac because >> you can't patent a keyboard lay-out. I'm glad you can't, but I think >> it's >> funny. >> Maybe Jim has played with both and can say better. I don't know if >> the exact commands are the same, but they use windows alt just like >> the mac uses command and option or whatever, and you have this whole >> concept of interacting with elements or not. From the podcast I heard >> Narrator was not working very well on the internet at all, and it was >> very >> complicated just >> to navigate through web pages on a basic level. Of course updates are >> coming out all the time, and it's still in beta. I believe there is >> already a blind windows 8 list, and I'm thinking of joining it. It >> will all be very interesting to watch, but I'm sure in no hurry to >> switch. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kimberly A. Morrow, PhD >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:49 AM >> To: 'real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new >> >> The reason I don't have a great deal of faith in MicroSoft's >> commitment to accessibility is because of what occurred with their >> complete failure to provide accessibility to their most recent Windows >> operating system on cell phones. I'm amazed that, with the new >> telecommunications access laws in place, MicroSoft was able to move >> forward with a completely inaccessible interface. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Reginald George >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:45 AM >> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new >> >> It sounds like at first that we will have access to maybe half of the >> operating system. The Metro apps are anyone's guess at this point. >> The desktop versions of the apps hopefully will work as before, but >> there are no mirror drivers aloud. So this will effect how Jaws and >> Windoweyes can access information in the off screen model such as >> things they need to give the best accessibility. No one knows at this >> point as the screen readers are still under development. Someone may >> have more specific information than I do. But I'm on the look out for >> anything real that I can pass on. I think it will get much more >> competitive for FS and GWMicro because we will have the same level of >> access as System Access and NVDA and Narrator. No more, no less, >> unless I'm totally way off base here. I'm wondering how it will >> effect things like basic Office support to lose that ability to mirror >> the >> video card output. So far no one is talking. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kimberly A. Morrow, PhD >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:01 AM >> To: 'real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new >> >> And the big question is: What do the changes mean for users of screen >> readers? >> >> Kim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kimberly A. Morrow, PhD >> Communications Specialist >> Unity >> Message of Hope Ministry >> 1901 NW Blue Parkway >> Unity Village, MO 64065 >> Toll Free: 866-421-3066 >> Local: 816-251-3588 >> M-F, 7:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. (CT) >> >> >> www.unity.org >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Reginald George >> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:17 PM >> To: nutkc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; >> accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [real-eyes] Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new >> >> FYI >> -----Original Message----- >> From: peter altschul >> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:46 PM >> To: Ati >> Subject: [ATI] [VICUG-L] Fw: [blindwindows8] Windows 8 Security what's >> new >> >> Windows 8 Security: What's New >> Windows 8 is a major OS overhaul, but some of the most important >> additions might be the ones you can't see. Here's a look at Windows >> 8's new security tools and features. >> >> By Eric Geier, PCWorld May 17, 2012 9:00 pm >> >> Windows 8 Security: What's NewThe Start screen is the most obvious >> change to Windows 8, but some of the biggest changes are less apparent. >> When Windows 8 comes out later this year, the new Start screen and >> Metro-style apps will likely be the first changes you'll notice, but >> those aren't the only things that are new. Microsoft is also making >> some serious security enhancements to help keep your system safer and to >> improve Windows' >> ability to combat viruses and malware. It just may be the biggest >> improvement to Windows security yet. >> Antivirus Comes Preinstalled >> >> For the first time in the history of Windows, you'll enjoy protection >> from viruses, spyware, Trojan horses, rootkits, and other malware from >> the very first day you turn on your Windows PC--without spending a cent. >> Windows 8 comes with an updated version of Windows Defender that >> includes traditional antivirus functions in addition to the spyware >> protection and other security features that it has offered since >> Windows Vista. Windows Defender now provides similar protection--and >> a similar look and feel--to that of the free Microsoft Security >> Essentials antivirus program, which Microsoft has offered to users as an >> optional download since 2009. >> >> Windows 8 Security: What's NewThe updated Windows Defender resembles >> Microsoft Security Essentials. >> >> Since Windows Defender will provide at least basic virus and malware >> protection, purchasing yearly antivirus subscriptions (such as from >> McAfee or Norton) or downloading a free antivirus package (like AVG or >> Avast) is optional, whereas before it was pretty much required if you >> wanted to stay virus-free. Of course, you may disable Windows >> Defender and use another antivirus utility that promises better >> protection and more features, but at least everyone will have basic >> protection by default. >> Better Download Screening >> >> When Microsoft released Internet Explorer 9, it updated the browser's >> SmartScreen Filter to help detect and block unknown and potentially >> malicious programs that you download; the function complements IE's >> website filtering, which works to block phishing and malicious sites. >> Starting with Windows 8, the program-monitoring portion of the >> SmartScreen Filter is built into Windows itself, and it will work >> whether you're using IE, Firefox, Chrome, or any other browser. >> >> In Windows 8, the first time you run a program that you downloaded >> from the Internet, the SmartScreen Filter checks it against a list of >> known safe applications, and alerts you if it's unknown and therefore >> has the potential to be malware. If the alert does pop up, you could >> then further investigate the program (and the source where you downloaded >> it) before running it. >> >> Windows 8 Security: What's NewSmartScreen produces an alert if you run >> an unknown program. >> >> Since Microsoft is adding the SmartScreen feature, the company is >> removing the previous Security Warning alerts that appeared when you >> first opened a downloaded program (the old alert would show the >> verification status of the program publisher and warn you about >> running programs downloaded from the Internet). >> >> This is a welcome change, as it cuts down on the number of alerts you >> have to click through--with Windows 8, you'll see an alert only when >> something's amiss. >> Faster, More Secure Startup >> >> Starting with Windows 8, Microsoft will begin to promote a new type of >> boot method, UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface), which >> improves upon and replaces the archaic BIOS boot system that most PCs >> have been using for decades. I won't get into the technical details >> here, but UEFI offers better security, faster startup times, and a number >> of other benefits. >> >> Thanks to this new boot method (and other system enhancements), your >> PC will start up more quickly--in as little as 8 seconds, from the >> time you press the power button to when Windows fully loads to the >> desktop. But you're sure to appreciate the less noticeable improvements >> too. >> The >> Secure Boot feature of UEFI will prevent advanced malware (such as >> bootkits and rootkits) from causing damage, and it will stop other >> boot loader attacks (such as malware that loads unauthorized operating >> systems) as well. >> >> Though Windows 8 will work on PCs with the old BIOS boot system, >> Microsoft will require new PCs that carry the Windows 8 Certification >> to use the UEFI boot system with the Secure Boot feature enabled by >> default. This Secure Boot requirement is causing some concern within >> the PC industry and among power users, as it could complicate the >> process of using Linux distributions or dual-booting multiple operating >> systems. >> However, Microsoft has promised to keep boot control in users' >> hands, >> and the company requires system makers participating in Windows 8 >> Certification to offer a way for users to disable the Secure Boot >> feature on PCs (but not on tablets). >> Two New Password Types >> >> Windows 8 introduces two new password types that you can use when >> logging in to your Windows account: a four-digit PIN and a "picture >> password." >> >> For the picture password, you choose a photo or image and draw three >> gestures (a combination of circles, straight lines, or >> taps/clicks) in >> different places to create your "password." >> >> Windows 8 Security: What's New >> >> Even if you decide to use these new password types, you still must set >> up a regular password. A PIN offers a faster way to log in, and a >> picture password gives you a more creative and fun way to do so. >> Sometimes you'll have to enter the regular password, such as when you >> need administrative approval for changing system settings as a >> standard user, but you can log in to your account using the PIN, the >> picture, or your regular password. >> Other Noteworthy Defense Measures >> >> The enhanced Windows Defender, SmartScreen, boot system, and password >> protection are the most noticeable security improvements in Windows 8. >> But the new OS has even more system enhancements that you won't see at >> all. >> A few core Windows components (such as the Windows kernel, ASLR, and >> heap) have been updated to help reduce common attacks and exploits even >> further. >> -- >> >> Christopher Hallsworth >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >> options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >> options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >> options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >> options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >> options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes