The problem is the ordinance only allows two temporary signs per shopping
center.
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Ken Young <kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The GBGH has a banner along Robious Rd advertising their Thursday Farmers
Market. It has been out there a long time and is falling down. I wonder how
they got approval for the banner and if there is a limitation on the number
of banners, maybe we could swap out theirs with ours for Dec and Jan.
Ken
On 8/3/2016 7:43 PM, William Robertson wrote:
The VTC set out their sign at the event the club participated in this past
March.
At the end of the event the sign was gone. The County picked it up. When
called the County said you are not getting it back.
Bill R.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Bill Michie <billm387@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ken is right. Perhaps the first step is to check with GBGH and get their
insight.
As to John's point, the VTC checked, were told one way was right, then
told another way after the fact. Gotta love government.
Have a great day!
Bill M.
*From:* rc3r-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rc3r-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Ken Young
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 9:50 PM
*To:* rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [rc3r] Re: River City 3 Railers Yard Sign Version 1
When my wife was involved with the Chesterfield county Master Gardner
program, she had some dealings with the GBGH. She remembered the GBGH put a
wooden sign out advertising something that was going on and the County got
after them about the sign. The last thing we want to do is to get the GBGH
in trouble.
A few years ago there was a self appointed sign cop who attended county
council meetings and stirred up a lot of problems about what he felt were
uncontrolled signs along the roads, on telephone poles, and so on. It
became his crusade and caused the County to come out with a restrictive
sign code. He is from Midlothian and mainly complained about signs along
and near Midlothian Turnpike. I don't know whether he is still active or
not, but we don't need someone like him complaining to the Police or County
officials.
Ken
On 8/2/2016 8:59 PM, John Crockett (Redacted sender jctrainman for DMARC)
wrote:
Especially if they find out you inquired and then ignored the rules.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Michie <billm387@xxxxxxxxxxx> <billm387@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: rc3r <rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2016 8:40 pm
Subject: [rc3r] Re: River City 3 Railers Yard Sign Version 1
If you put the signs out, be sure you have extras made. My experience
has been that localities are under no obligation to alert the owners to
remove the signs; they'll just remove them without a word to anyone. Case
in point that had a happy ending: at a VTC train show at Hanover Academy
in Ashland, a sign was placed on Route 54 where it was regulated and it was
removed without a word. The happy ending is that Jim Donlon (formerly of
Train Town in Ashland) was able to recover the sign from the town
authorities without any problem. Localities can be moody, so tread
carefully.
Bill M.
*From:* rc3r-*bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx* <bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [
*mailto:rc3r-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx* ;<rc3r-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?>] *On
Behalf Of **tlg225ccr94@xxxxxxxxxxx* <tlg225ccr94@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:14 PM
*To:* *rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx* <rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [rc3r] Re: River City 3 Railers Yard Sign Version 1
Yes,
There are regulations. HOWEVER. We have been putting up signs all over
the place for years. How many times have we been called out on this? I'd
say put the signs out. If someone says something, just say sorry and pull
them in. What kind of Scrooge is going to bust on a bunch of model train
guys during Christmas???
Just my $0.02.
On 08/02/16, William Robertson<*wsrsummer@xxxxxxxxx*
<wsrsummer@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
In this case banners fall under the same ordinance.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Ken Young <*kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx*
<kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Did they say anything specific about banners? They handle banners
differently from signs.
Ken
On 8/1/2016 5:32 PM, William Robertson wrote:
After reviewing the Chesterfield County web site concerning temporary
signage and banners and a call to the County, I feel the signs are a no go
for the GBGH.
An ordinance states that only 2 temporary signs are allowed per shopping
center. Those 2 signs are the total for all businesses in the shopping
center. During the holidays this would be crazy trying to coordinate for
each weekend with the other businesses plus the County requires a special
permit for each weekend.
Certainly open for discussion at the next meeting.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Ken Young <*kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx*
<kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
We need to do some more research before buying signs. Chesterfield County
has some odd rules about temporary signage and I believe it says that these
real estate style signs are only allowed for real estate companies. We need
to find out what is allowed first. Also, the RC3R logo doesn't really
convey to the casual driver passing by what exactly is being advertised. I
also think any sign should have something saying where to go like "at the
Great Big Greenhouse".
Ken
On 7/30/2016 7:39 AM, William Robertson wrote:
The attached yard sign is 2 sided. It comes with a black HD plastic stand
to push into the ground. It should not move with the wind. The sign is made
out of the same material as the orange signs the club currently uses. The
sign will be about the same size as the orange signs the club currently
has. What do you think about the club up grading and using this version
while we are at the GBGH ?
At least one at each entrance to the shopping center.
Price: 1- 3 $29.99 each 2 sided sign
4- 8 $24.99 each 2 sided sign
8- 25 $19.99 each 2 sided sign
The signs are made locally in Midlothian.
Bill
