Ken is right. Perhaps the first step is to check with GBGH and get their
insight.
As to John's point, the VTC checked, were told one way was right, then told
another way after the fact. Gotta love government.
Have a great day!
Bill M.
From: rc3r-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rc3r-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ;
Ken Young
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 9:50 PM
To: rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rc3r] Re: River City 3 Railers Yard Sign Version 1
When my wife was involved with the Chesterfield county Master Gardner program,
she had some dealings with the GBGH. She remembered the GBGH put a wooden sign
out advertising something that was going on and the County got after them about
the sign. The last thing we want to do is to get the GBGH in trouble.
A few years ago there was a self appointed sign cop who attended county council
meetings and stirred up a lot of problems about what he felt were uncontrolled
signs along the roads, on telephone poles, and so on. It became his crusade and
caused the County to come out with a restrictive sign code. He is from
Midlothian and mainly complained about signs along and near Midlothian
Turnpike. I don't know whether he is still active or not, but we don't need
someone like him complaining to the Police or County officials.
Ken
On 8/2/2016 8:59 PM, John Crockett (Redacted sender jctrainman for DMARC) wrote:
Especially if they find out you inquired and then ignored the rules.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Michie <mailto:billm387@xxxxxxxxxxx> <billm387@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: rc3r <mailto:rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2016 8:40 pm
Subject: [rc3r] Re: River City 3 Railers Yard Sign Version 1
If you put the signs out, be sure you have extras made. My experience has been
that localities are under no obligation to alert the owners to remove the
signs; they'll just remove them without a word to anyone. Case in point that
had a happy ending: at a VTC train show at Hanover Academy in Ashland, a sign
was placed on Route 54 where it was regulated and it was removed without a
word. The happy ending is that Jim Donlon (formerly of Train Town in Ashland)
was able to recover the sign from the town authorities without any problem.
Localities can be moody, so tread carefully.
Bill M.
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<mailto:rc3r-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?> mailto:rc3r-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
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Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:14 PM
To: <mailto:rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> rc3r@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rc3r] Re: River City 3 Railers Yard Sign Version 1
Yes,
There are regulations. HOWEVER. We have been putting up signs all over the
place for years. How many times have we been called out on this? I'd say put
the signs out. If someone says something, just say sorry and pull them in. What
kind of Scrooge is going to bust on a bunch of model train guys during
Christmas???
Just my $0.02.
On 08/02/16, William Robertson< <mailto:wsrsummer@xxxxxxxxx>
wsrsummer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In this case banners fall under the same ordinance.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Ken Young < <mailto:kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx>
kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Did they say anything specific about banners? They handle banners differently
from signs.
Ken
On 8/1/2016 5:32 PM, William Robertson wrote:
After reviewing the Chesterfield County web site concerning temporary signage
and banners and a call to the County, I feel the signs are a no go for the
GBGH.
An ordinance states that only 2 temporary signs are allowed per shopping
center. Those 2 signs are the total for all businesses in the shopping center.
During the holidays this would be crazy trying to coordinate for each weekend
with the other businesses plus the County requires a special permit for each
weekend.
Certainly open for discussion at the next meeting.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Ken Young < <mailto:kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx>
kanawha72@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We need to do some more research before buying signs. Chesterfield County has
some odd rules about temporary signage and I believe it says that these real
estate style signs are only allowed for real estate companies. We need to find
out what is allowed first. Also, the RC3R logo doesn't really convey to the
casual driver passing by what exactly is being advertised. I also think any
sign should have something saying where to go like "at the Great Big
Greenhouse".
Ken
On 7/30/2016 7:39 AM, William Robertson wrote:
The attached yard sign is 2 sided. It comes with a black HD plastic stand to
push into the ground. It should not move with the wind. The sign is made out of
the same material as the orange signs the club currently uses. The sign will be
about the same size as the orange signs the club currently has. What do you
think about the club up grading and using this version while we are at the GBGH
?
At least one at each entrance to the shopping center.
Price: 1- 3 $29.99 each 2 sided sign
4- 8 $24.99 each 2 sided sign
8- 25 $19.99 each 2 sided sign
The signs are made locally in Midlothian.
Bill
