Just an FYI for the newbies. It is a good idea to be in the media center for the safety meeting, etc at 0800 each day. So you need to get your wrist band before that and usually you cannot take your car into the track. You have to leave it in the gravel parking lot. Don't forget to place your parking pass where it is visible, not that they check. Usually the track has lunch for the media in the media center along with snacks and drinks. They also have shuttle vans to take you around the track and keep you hydrated. Miller also in the past has provided donuts, coffee, etc for the morning meeting. Has anybody heard from the Knightmare? Is he going to be there? The most important FYI is that the G.O.M's are usually pretty good at this race. P ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Wells<mailto:mcwellsphoto@xxxxxxxxx> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: [ratpack] Re: Credentials All, Well maybe it's because I'm newer to this whole gig that keeps me enthused, I also have the benefit of having no little kids at home to chase after. As much as my wife loves me she's not about to come to the track and watch me take pictures. So my only other alternative is to hang out with you bunch of misfits. John has been good to me so far and I'm pretty lucky to have found someone that will sponsor me for credentials. I had to work for this one and I'm going to ride it as far as I can. As much as I love to shoot nature & waterfalls they can't give me the same kind of adrenaline rush that motor sports has. And the fact that I've been able to sell a few photos is a huge bonus & ego stroker. I'd hate to not see you at the track any more Ray but I haven't walked in your shoes so I don't know your level of frustration. Part of this is the camaraderie, where else am I going to hang out with a bunch of mentally deranged photogs? I don't know where this will lead but it's been fun and I hope this continues. I hope something works out for you Ray, Brandon, the guy that came to the ALMS race with me will only be there Sat til 3, I don't know if credentials are transferable but he won't be using his either Friday or Sunday. Just walk up and say you're Brandon Storr, who knows? I don't know if that will work but it's out there. I also can't wait for the lunches at Hires, my wife just rolls her eyes when I start talking about panning & shutter speed and so on... Well there's my two cents. Michael aka Dr Z On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: After talking with John Gardner about credential requests, and in particular, www.landracing.com<http://www.landracing.com/> (he said "give it a try") he denied my request. I pointed out some things he might not be aware of (like my photos of MMP on landracing) and asked him to reconsider. I haven't heard from him. If I don't hear back and I don't get credentials for this weekend, I'm considering severing my relationship with MMP. The credential hoops and changing rules and moving targets are too much hassle. I may just cut back to doing car shows and the salt flats. It would sure be a nice thing not to have to do a paper chase for every fucking event and find myself in conflict with the "big boys" who have corporate backing and departments who handle all that stuff for 'em. Working 16-18 hours a day to get all the photos edited and on the web is gettin to be a real energy drain. I know that it's something that I've chosen to do, but it might just be for the best if I didn't have that never-ending series of hoops to jump through. When Spencer Young bought the old Bonneville Raceway Park and built Rocky Mountain Raceway, it just stopped being fun. I'd been a permanent fixture at the Saturday nite roundy-round races and ran my Monte Carlo on the drag strip there. After numerous incidents (the biggest one was not being allowed to bring a "cold cup" of water into the track) I decided that the costs outweighed the benefits and I stopped giving Mr. Young my money. I haven't regretted it at all. MMP is starting to get that way for me. Since Larry's death, the track has begun a downward spiral that just doesn't look very good. It wouldn't surprise me if it didn't go up for sale or just closed down. But aside from that negativity, I get the feeling that they'd rather not have to bother with ANY photographers, no matter how much free PR they get. We've discussed this in the past and I don't see any changes that would make things better. So if I don't get the credentials for this weekend, I'll shoot the Peach Days car show in Brigham City and probably not even bother going back to MMP. Besides: next year is lookin awful bleak as far as events. No ALMS, no vintage or historic races, only Superbike, Grand-Am and NASCAR West (combining 'em is really a dumb idea) and some bread and circuses for the masses like the off-road stuff. Superbike has been a pita from the word go and that only leaves 2 major events. I can live without 'em. RtR On 9/7/2010 1:56 PM, PAUL W WATSON wrote: Yes, Does anybody know what track configuration[s] are being used? NASCAR in the past has used the 3 mile perimeter track and the Grand Am cars use the full 4.5 mile track. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Wells<mailto:mcwellsphoto@xxxxxxxxx> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:11 PM Subject: [ratpack] Re: Credentials Sounds like the start of a party for the Rat Pack. Will the Big Sigma be along for the ride? Michael On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM, PAUL W WATSON <TSWATSON78@xxxxxxx<mailto:TSWATSON78@xxxxxxx>> wrote: I'll be there Thursday thru Sunday. P ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Wells<mailto:mcwellsphoto@xxxxxxxxx> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 12:05 PM Subject: [ratpack] Credentials All, Well the credential confirmation came through on Saturday so Brandon and I are good to go. Are we going to see everyone there? 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