Sheldon writes: >I think an interesting question in this case is whether my >personal home telephone number can be considered private >information... That's a good question. What's the interest to that little piece of intellectual property? >If my number is included in the phone book does that mean I >have consented to it being public? Yes. I believe, in Ontario, that publishing your phone number is a reasonable "consent to call." And Bell always asks you, when you get a new number. Also, Bell Canada charges something like $2/mo. for private listings! I rather think that's backwards, but, then, who the hell would pay $2 to have their number listed? The "public phone book" (for residences) is largely a hold-over from a distant era, when phones were special, high-tech pieces of equipment and there were not too many ways to abuse a listed phone number. The private sector policy laws on use of phone numbers is out of date -- and, being out of date, encourages backwards industries like telephone telemarketing. I had Environics as a client back in 1997-99. I saw their methods. People are not as leery of legitimate polling by phone -- but no one wants a salesperson to call (hence that Congressional vote). But it was still a sweat shop (the call centre, not the company Environics Research, which was a wonderful place to work). >Does it therefore follow that the only way to qualify >for a do-not-call list is to remove my number from >the public phone book? I think there are "random dialers" still working out there. (Homer Simpson had one once!) I did a story back in 1993 or so about Dennis Fine (if I recall his name correctly) who had a auto-dialer sales system that terrorized Toronto. That is, a computer-hooked-to-a-phone randomly dialed numbers every early eve. And, like most tech, screwed up, calling the same numbers over. (My number has always been unlisted and I got the calls.) If I recall, Fine ended up somehow getting shut down by the feds... I'll have to look that up again sometime. Ken. -- The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion. -- George Washington