[ql06] Re: PUBLIC: Civil liberties
- From: mark bumstead <2mab8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ql06@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:54:25 -0400
:-)
You caught me on the theatre bit. I had theatre but without a reference -
which I am way beyond doing at this hour - it sounded plagiaristic.
We'll have to differ on Zundel. I disagree that he can spout shit wherever
he chooses. In private, he can blow chunks for all I care - as long as
chunks isn't his dog. But when he spouts off in a public forum, he should
be held accountable for the accuracy of those words. He holds himself out
to be an expert, and just as a doctor who knowingly gives dangerous advice
is held accountable for that advice, so should Zundel be.
Ya, it was Brownstone, which to me is a type of building, not a judge.
Yes, economic tyranny of the minority is wrong also. When a small,
incestuous group controls the economy, the little guy - in this case the
majority - does not have equal opportunity: there is no equality as you say
law is about. Not sure where that comes from, but hey, everyone has an
opinion. ;- ) Mine is that law is about balancing power: it takes from the
strong, and gives to the weak. Isn't that the real thrust of Human Rights
legislation: assisting those without the power to help themselves? If they
held the balance of power, they would use it to get what they wanted
without legislation.
Mark Bumstead
>Mark writes:
>
> >Going for the minor message over the meta-message? You can do
> >better than that, Ken.
>
>I was going for the inherent facts in your argument, albeit in a playful
>way, coz this IS email, brother.
>
> >I am pro free-speech, but you can't yell "fire" in a crowded
> >room.
>
>The phrase is actually "crowded theater". Meaning a PUBLIC place, not a
>room (which is usually private).
>
>"Speech" is not about private places, but public places.
>
>Zundel has a right to speak his shit wherever he wants. And he is not
>screaming fire.
>
> >I believe in due process, but "a toilet isn't a
> >bathtub" to quote Blackstone J.
>
>Do you mean Harvey Brownstone? The Prov. Ct. grad from this aft?
>
>Blackstone was a different chap, with much more referential weight.
>
> >And yes, minority tyranny is wrong.
>
>Does that include economic tyranny of a few?
>
>Should a few people have the total ability to dictate to a massive
>plurality?
>
>Just asking...
>
> >Life is about attaining balance.
>
>Dunno about life... but law is about equity.
>
>Ken.
>
>--
>Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you
>have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you
>against the present.
> -- Marcus Aurelius
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