I personally don't use plugins or whatever. I just tel it that it's
python code. You can set indentation to four spaces if you are on that
side of the debate. Pylint and such could be run from the cmd and that's
okay with me.
On 13.6.2018 г. 13:24, romance's prince (Redacted sender romanticbiro
for DMARC) wrote:
so, how i use notepad++ and run python code from it?
what's plug-in / extention u use?
thanks
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Florian Beijers <mailto:florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx>
*To:* pythonvis <mailto:pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:04 AM
*Subject:* [pythonvis] Re: Visual Studio Community 2017 as an
accessible IDE for blind programmers
Never used NotePad++ with that plugin, sorry. I know there's an
NVDA addon that helps with the NotePad++ autocomplete and a few
other things. VS Code , with the right extensions, can provide a
Python environment as well.
Op di 12 jun. 2018 om 23:10 schreef romance's prince
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
hope people here write nvda add-on / jaws script let use use
notepad++ better specially indentation and other feature like
auto complete code / chick errors...
if you please each time I open notepad++ give me error about
updating python plug-in, could you recommend good plug-in and
better way to configure notepad++ with python 3x?
thanks
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Florian Beijers <mailto:florianbeijers@gmailcom>
*To:* pythonvis <mailto:pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:00 PM
*Subject:* [pythonvis] Re: Visual Studio Community 2017 as
an accessible IDE for blind programmers
Hi,
Sorta depends on if you intend to work with sighted
colleagues in the future. In which case, do not use EdSharp.
You're better off using something like NotePad++ or VS
Code in that case, since it's editors that are more
well-known in non-blind circles. Believe me, this matters.
a lot.
Op di 12 jun. 2018 om 19:34 schreef Mohit Singla
<mohit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mohit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
Hi,
So I have a dumb question so please bear with me.
I want to start Python and I was planning to use ED
Sharp as an editor. If I shift to VS then do I need to
first learn VS or is it mostly as a text editor and I
can learn as I go along?
Basically which would be better for someone who wants
to start Python?
Thanks and Regards
Mohit
*From:*pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of
*Adam Gaffney
*Sent:* 12 June 2018 01:02
*To:* pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [pythonvis] Visual Studio Community 2017 as
an accessible IDE for blind programmers
Hi folks, since some have asked about editors and IDS
on the list lately I'm sharing some of the research
Warren Clary and I have been doing on this topic. I
hope you find the below of use to you.
I have been doing more reading on editors, and IDE's
for Python. At
this time you may want to consider "Visual Studio
Community 2017" as a
good production IDE for blind programmers.
How a Blind Developer uses Visual Studio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWXebEeGwn0
Microsoft has two IDEs that can be used for Python
programming:
o Visual Studio 2017 (Community, Professional, Enterprise)
o Visual Studio Code
Visual Studio is a .net product that has been around
for years, and
runs under Microsoft windows. It is their premier
development
package. You can download a version for education,
non commercial
application development, and open source application
development for
free (Visual Studio Community 2017). A single copy of
the commercial
version cost $2,500.00 a year.
Visual Studio Community 2017
https://www.visualstudio.com/downloads/
Go to the Visual Studio Community 2017
Free, fully-featured IDE for students,
open-source and individual developers
and download the software.
How to set up Visual Studio for Python
IntelliSense, Azure development, profiling,
and world class debugging tools for Python developers
https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/features/python/
Here is a video tutorial on Python Tools for Visual
Studio. The audio
on this video is good.
Python Tools for Visual Studio 2017:
https://mva.microsoft.com/en-US/training-courses/python-tools-for-visual-studio-2017-18121?l=go1id3LWE_1705918567
Microsoft "Visual Studio Code" is a new product, has
some bugs, and
has some issues with JAWS,and NVDA. This may change in
the future.
Python in Visual Studio Code:
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/python
This is a new product developed by Microsoft and can be
used for all type of software development, and runs on
multiple
platforms ( windows, mac, Linux ). This software was
developed using
the Electron Shell framework. At present as problems
with JAWS and NVDA.
See the section listed below, "ElectronShell and
screenreader accessibility"
_______________________________________________________________
ElectronShell and screenreader accessibility
See the link to, "electronShell and screenreader
accessibility":
https://discuss.atom.io/t/electronshell-and-screenreader-accessibility/23893
A blind programmer discusses his problems with:
atom
visual studio code
Kitematic
All of these editors are based on electron shell.
Microsoft says they
have been doing work to make VS code more accessible.
It looks like
they have been making changes on their code, not going
back to
"Electron" to have them address their problems.
Be sure to read down through the comments in this article.
--
"The people may be made to follow a path of action,
but they may not be
made to understand it."
- Confucius ca. 480 B.C.
