so, how i use notepad++ and run python code from it?
what's plug-in / extention u use?
thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: Florian Beijers
To: pythonvis
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:04 AM
Subject: [pythonvis] Re: Visual Studio Community 2017 as an accessible IDE
for blind programmers
Never used NotePad++ with that plugin, sorry. I know there's an NVDA addon
that helps with the NotePad++ autocomplete and a few other things. VS Code ,
with the right extensions, can provide a Python environment as well.
Op di 12 jun. 2018 om 23:10 schreef romance's prince
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
hope people here write nvda add-on / jaws script let use use notepad++
better specially indentation and other feature like auto complete code / chick
errors...
if you please each time I open notepad++ give me error about updating
python plug-in, could you recommend good plug-in and better way to configure
notepad++ with python 3x?
thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: Florian Beijers
To: pythonvis
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:00 PM
Subject: [pythonvis] Re: Visual Studio Community 2017 as an accessible
IDE for blind programmers
Hi,
Sorta depends on if you intend to work with sighted colleagues in the
future. In which case, do not use EdSharp.
You're better off using something like NotePad++ or VS Code in that case,
since it's editors that are more well-known in non-blind circles. Believe me,
this matters. a lot.
Op di 12 jun. 2018 om 19:34 schreef Mohit Singla <mohit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Hi,
So I have a dumb question so please bear with me.
I want to start Python and I was planning to use ED Sharp as an editor.
If I shift to VS then do I need to first learn VS or is it mostly as a text
editor and I can learn as I go along?
Basically which would be better for someone who wants to start Python?
Thanks and Regards
Mohit
From: pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam Gaffney
Sent: 12 June 2018 01:02
To: pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pythonvis] Visual Studio Community 2017 as an accessible IDE
for blind programmers
Hi folks, since some have asked about editors and IDS on the list
lately I'm sharing some of the research Warren Clary and I have been doing on
this topic. I hope you find the below of use to you.
I have been doing more reading on editors, and IDE's for Python. At
this time you may want to consider "Visual Studio Community 2017" as a
good production IDE for blind programmers.
How a Blind Developer uses Visual Studio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWXebEeGwn0
Microsoft has two IDEs that can be used for Python programming:
o Visual Studio 2017 (Community, Professional, Enterprise)
o Visual Studio Code
Visual Studio is a .net product that has been around for years, and
runs under Microsoft windows. It is their premier development
package. You can download a version for education, non commercial
application development, and open source application development for
free (Visual Studio Community 2017). A single copy of the commercial
version cost $2,500.00 a year.
Visual Studio Community 2017
https://www.visualstudio.com/downloads/
Go to the Visual Studio Community 2017
Free, fully-featured IDE for students,
open-source and individual developers
and download the software.
How to set up Visual Studio for Python
IntelliSense, Azure development, profiling,
and world class debugging tools for Python developers
https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/features/python/
Here is a video tutorial on Python Tools for Visual Studio. The audio
on this video is good.
Python Tools for Visual Studio 2017:
https://mva.microsoft.com/en-US/training-courses/python-tools-for-visual-studio-2017-18121?l=go1id3LWE_1705918567
Microsoft "Visual Studio Code" is a new product, has some bugs, and
has some issues with JAWS,and NVDA. This may change in the future.
Python in Visual Studio Code:
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/python
This is a new product developed by Microsoft and can be
used for all type of software development, and runs on multiple
platforms ( windows, mac, Linux ). This software was developed using
the Electron Shell framework. At present as problems with JAWS and
NVDA.
See the section listed below, "ElectronShell and screenreader
accessibility"
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ElectronShell and screenreader accessibility
See the link to, "electronShell and screenreader accessibility":
https://discuss.atom.io/t/electronshell-and-screenreader-accessibility/23893
A blind programmer discusses his problems with:
atom
visual studio code
Kitematic
All of these editors are based on electron shell. Microsoft says they
have been doing work to make VS code more accessible. It looks like
they have been making changes on their code, not going back to
"Electron" to have them address their problems.
Be sure to read down through the comments in this article.
--
"The people may be made to follow a path of action, but they may not be
made to understand it."
- Confucius ca. 480 B.C.
