That link seems to be a problem...try http://youtube/YQ9KTTJJhLE<http://www.youtu.be/YQ9KTTJJhLE> Sorry folks Cheers Howard On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Howard Stevens <hstevens94@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Hullo pythonites, > Well I have finally completed my trike and had a very successful road > test. This can be seen on http://www.youtu.be/YQ9KTTJJhLE > You may recall the discussions about pivot angle with trikes and my > decision to go for an angle of 55 degrees. I also put a steering damper on > as well ( from a VW beetle). The test has gone very well without any > noticeable PSI and very limited wheel flop. It is ok without the damper > too, but I like the firm steady feel with it, and it is nice that it holds > the front wheel from falling over when parked. To allow my design to fold > necessitated that the pivot be in front of the hips and it is about 100mm > in front of the line of the hips, but it seems, without any > problems. Anyway have a look, and I will be interested in any further > comments. Best wishes Howard > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:07 PM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager < > ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> python Digest Wed, 23 Oct 2013 Volume: 11 Issue: 067 >> >> In This Issue: >> [python] python on eBay >> [python] Re: izzy bike >> [python] Re: izzy bike >> [python] Re: izzy bike >> [python] Re: izzy bike >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:56:51 +0200 >> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Mages?= <jmages@xxxxxx> >> Subject: [python] python on eBay >> >> Forwarding this for Mark: >> >> >> > Hello everyone >> > I just thought I would draw your attention to the python I am selling on >> > eBay. It was one of two made by Neil Stanley a few years ago. I >> > butchered the smaller of them to fit me and am keeping it, but this one >> > remains untouched. It would suit someone very tall. I think Neil is >> > around 193 cm, with legs to match. >> > >> > Here's the eBay link: >> > >> > >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/recumbent-bicycle-/221301006533#ht_386wt_1170=20 >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Mark >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> From: Steffen Risse <big.skangster@xxxxxxxxx> >> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:02:32 +0200 >> Subject: [python] Re: izzy bike >> >> Hi Vi [haɪ̯fɪ <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_IPA-Zeichen>] ;o), >> but friction isn't a conastant ratio, and the angle the steering bar has >> for a certain steering angle will change every time. maybe the steering >> bar >> is sometimes allready like full conrering, but you're still going >> straight. >> The clamped pullies prevent such situations as long as they don't brake. >> Steffen >> >> >> 2013/10/23 Vi Vuong <vi_vuong@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> > Hi Steffen, >> > >> > Friction steering should be similar to the Izzy's pulley design in a >> sense >> > that input angle is greater output angle due to slippage. However, the >> > "ratio" depends on the input force / slippage. It would be cool if speed >> > sensitive steering is achievable with python. Will report back after >> more >> > experimentation. Here is the handlebar set up I am using, >> > http://en.openbike.org/wiki/FP02 >> > >> > Vi >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:11:31 +0200 >> From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0ZXIgxaB2YW7EjcOhcmVr?= <peter.svancarek@xxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [python] Re: izzy bike >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> What about using pulleys and rope(cable) anchored to pulleys so they >> wouldn't rely on friction? >> >> Dňa 23. 10. 2013 15:02 Steffen Risse wrote / napísal(a): >> > Hi Vi [haɪ̯fɪ <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_IPA-Zeichen>] >> ;o), >> > but friction isn't a conastant ratio, and the angle the steering bar >> > has for a certain steering angle will change every time. maybe the >> > steering bar is sometimes allready like full conrering, but you're >> > still going straight. The clamped pullies prevent such situations as >> > long as they don't brake. >> > >> > Steffen >> > >> > >> > 2013/10/23 Vi Vuong <vi_vuong@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:vi_vuong@xxxxxxxxx>> >> >> > Hi Steffen, >> > >> > Friction steering should be similar to the Izzy's pulley design in >> > a sense that input angle is greater output angle due to slippage. >> > However, the "ratio" depends on the input force / slippage. It >> > would be cool if speed sensitive steering is achievable with >> > python. Will report back after more experimentation. Here is the >> > handlebar set up I am using, http://en.openbike.org/wiki/FP02 >> > >> > Vi >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> From: Steffen Risse <big.skangster@xxxxxxxxx> >> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:25:44 +0200 >> Subject: [python] Re: izzy bike >> >> that's what izzy does >> >> 2013/10/23 Peter Švančárek <peter.svancarek@xxxxxxxx> >> >> > What about using pulleys and rope(cable) anchored to pulleys so they >> > wouldn't rely on friction? >> > >> > Dňa 23. 10. 2013 15:02 Steffen Risse wrote / napísal(a): >> > >> > Hi Vi [haɪ̯fɪ <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_IPA-Zeichen>] >> ;o), >> > but friction isn't a conastant ratio, and the angle the steering bar >> has >> > for a certain steering angle will change every time. maybe the steering >> bar >> > is sometimes allready like full conrering, but you're still going >> straight. >> > The clamped pullies prevent such situations as long as they don't brake. >> > >> > Steffen >> > >> > >> > 2013/10/23 Vi Vuong <vi_vuong@xxxxxxxxx> >> > >> > >> > Hi Steffen, >> >> >> >> Friction steering should be similar to the Izzy's pulley design in a >> >> sense that input angle is greater output angle due to slippage. >> However, >> >> the "ratio" depends on the input force / slippage. It would be cool if >> speed >> >> sensitive steering is achievable with python. Will report back after >> more >> >> experimentation. Here is the handlebar set up I am using, >> >> http://en.openbike.org/wiki/FP02 >> >> >> >> Vi >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:24:18 +0300 >> Subject: [python] Re: izzy bike >> From: Tihamer Juhasz <balamber@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> One more detail: I contacted the creator of the Izzy on FB and asked about >> handling. This is what he told me: >> The bike is very easy to ride and manoeuvrable but it takes a few minutes >> to get use to it. This is because, just like you've noticed, caused by the >> wire. It's a bit like learing to ride a bike again , once you get the hang >> of it, it's all smooth sailing from there! >> >> End of quote. >> >> Learning to ride the Python definitely takes longer than a few minutes. So >> it would be really interesting to try this ride-by-wire approach on a >> Python. >> >> Tiha >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Steffen Risse <big.skangster@xxxxxxxxx >> >wrote: >> >> > that's what izzy does >> > >> > >> > 2013/10/23 Peter Švančárek <peter.svancarek@xxxxxxxx> >> > >> >> What about using pulleys and rope(cable) anchored to pulleys so they >> >> wouldn't rely on friction? >> >> >> >> Dňa 23. 10. 2013 15:02 Steffen Risse wrote / napísal(a): >> >> >> >> Hi Vi [haɪ̯fɪ <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_IPA-Zeichen>] >> ;o), >> >> but friction isn't a conastant ratio, and the angle the steering bar >> has >> >> for a certain steering angle will change every time. maybe the >> steering bar >> >> is sometimes allready like full conrering, but you're still going >> straight. >> >> The clamped pullies prevent such situations as long as they don't >> brake. >> >> >> >> Steffen >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/10/23 Vi Vuong <vi_vuong@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Steffen, >> >>> >> >>> Friction steering should be similar to the Izzy's pulley design in a >> >>> sense that input angle is greater output angle due to slippage. >> However, >> >>> the "ratio" depends on the input force / slippage. It would be cool >> if speed >> >>> sensitive steering is achievable with python. Will report back after >> more >> >>> experimentation. Here is the handlebar set up I am using, >> >>> http://en.openbike.org/wiki/FP02 >> >>> >> >>> Vi >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of python Digest V11 #67 >> **************************** >> >> >