Thanks for asking, it´s good for all to evaluate thinking. 1. why did you raise the seat? a) I don´t raise or lower seat angle, if you mean that. Latest pic could made that kind of impression. b) Seat is upper and movable - now it´s possible to move it forward and try find how my hip and pivot line come closer - and if someone like to tested it´s possible to make little adjustments. I also try to keep bb height and seat height difference so small as possible. BTW: Seat clamp is piece of bigger tube - https://picasaweb.google.com/100172485293893872820/P300#5746752824332660354 2. move the seat support stay from the wheel drop out to the middle of the frame? Yes - if seat support stays comes from rear, it´s stiffer than my ripped http://www.zoxbikes.com/ stays. But i like it more in this way that rear part is more design instead of triangle. Pasi Lähettäjä: jan <jlaube@xxxxxxxxxx> Vastausosoite: <python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Päivämäärä: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:09:36 -0400 Vastaanottaja: <python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Aihe: [python] Re: p300 roll out pic Hi Very nice looking bike. Why did you change for the design concept i.e. 1. why did you raise the seat? 2. move the seat support stay from the wheel drop out to the middle of the frame? Thank you Jan From: Pasi Räsämäki <mailto:pasi@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:41 AM To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [python] p300 roll out pic Hello. p300 roll out pic > http://goo.gl/UcykI First test ride and practises made - it seems that my Nokia challenge to ride 300km in one day (12h) is quite far :) -- Pasi