----Ursprungligt meddelande---- Från: dirk_bonne@xxxxxxxxxx Datum: Oct 13, 2005 10:44:47 AM Till: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Ärende: [python] Re: some thoughts Dirk wrote What I do feel is that from a certain (really high) speed the *qualitative* feeling of the bike changes. On my bike it is at least above 52kmh, dunno exactly where it happens. 52 km/h regardless of how steep the descent is? My question is why would a bike be different at high speed than at low speed? Not many factors differs beside air resistance. I can really not believe that the answer is "pivot angle". If you are willing to drop the notion of gyroscopic torque, what is there left to actually give you physically the feedback of that something is qualitatively different? Someone must sacrifise his child, letting it not come near any ordinary bicycles during adolescence. Already at three the little one would ride his three wheeled pyhon dreaming of the day when he (or she for that matter) is allowed do ride a real two wheeled python like his father. Then, when this kid is 16 or something we can compare. Who is volunteering? olaf > What I >can do, is feel the effect, quite easily, of changing the pivot angle, and >the wheel base, and the seat height. > > It would be interesting to know how the mechanical trail has an influence. Hmm, making the pivot angle more horizontal will make any gyroscopic torque more vertical, creating less influence on the side pull... Dirk > > ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist at freelists.org Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================ ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist at freelists.org Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================