Yes, there is some sort of entanglement alright, that might amuse Einstein and his co-pilot while working on quantum in the 30's. The frame does move slightly side to side, transferring energy from one wheel to another, so technically the vehicle is a coupled pendulum, but to the untrained eyes it may appear as though the wheels have their own repelling and attracting forces :) So replacing the word quantum with [python], we have [Python] entanglement is a property of the [python] mechanical state of a system containing two or more objects, where the objects that make up the system are linked in such a way that the [python] state of any of them cannot be adequately described without full mention of the others, even if the individual objects are spatially separated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement Kurt, smaller wheels are more susceptible to small bumps, but so far have not been an issue. Here is a video of my 20in FWD lowracer offroad, going over both big pot holes and small bumps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jq7xX5ASFw. Unfortunately I have not ridden my 20in python enough to tell, but probably more drama from bumps... While the quad is for carrying big load, it is also very stable, so a tadpole may be enough with longer wheelbase perhaps for a small passenger in the back like the Pythoon, perfect for a young family. A third rider in the back is also a possibility. Jürgen, the Wiki is really nice to work with. How about moving some of the python-lowracer contents over that are still evolving, like the survey? Vi ________________________________ From: Kurt Rutter <tokabago@xxxxxxxxx> To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 9:57:42 AM Subject: [python] Re: Pendulum effects How do you weld a quantum entanglement? I have been entangled in my wirefeed, it was not pretty. The 20 inch front wheel design is very good looking, so compact. How does it cope with paved but bumpy streets? Also, Vi's design might be interesting as a tadpole trike. Oh no, another project. ;=/ Kurt 2011/3/10 Jürgen Mages <jmages@xxxxxx> Hi Vi, > >the video is funny indeed - maybe you just discovered quantum entanglement in >macroscopic dimensions. > >Great, that you setup a wiki page about your project. > >Cheers, >Jürgen. > > >On 10.03.2011 06:24, Vi Vuong wrote: > >Hi All, >> >>We have been turning the Bango quad with mostly the outer wheel, because the >>inner wheel only needs much less turning to minimize tire scrubbing. This >>figure depicts the shallow angle compared to the Ackerman angle, which is >>harder >>to achieve with center steering. >>http://en.openbike.org/wiki/File:Bango_steering.png >> >>After some calculation, it seems that the shallow is possible due to the >>pendulum effect causing the wheels to go up & down. As we lean into the >>corner, >>the inner wheel must be higher than outer wheels via smaller angle. Wheel >>tilt >>angle may also play a role and asymmetry is also suspect, but the behavior is >>almost the same in either direction. >>We made some attempts to achieve Ackerman angles but it's hard to eyeball. >>We >>did notice the outer wheel skid along, as if it barely touch the ground. We >>need to figure out a way to measure the steering angles and tire scrubbing >>sound >>simultaneously for more system dynamics analysis. Any thoughts on the two >>distinct angles, Python vs. Ackerman? Can this be some sort of bifurcation? >>We >>do have a pendulum after all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_bifurcation >> >>A video for your entertainment... >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzUr3GI_ulE >> >>Vi >> ============================================================ > >This is the Python Mailinglist > >//www.freelists.org/list/python > >Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx > >To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. > >============================================================ > > -- Kurt Rutter, RN, MSN Kauai Community College Nursing Department krutte@xxxxxxxxxx cell: 631-9131 (\_/) (0.o) (___)o