Dear Pythonauts, According to Rohloff, the total average weight of the equivalent redundant parts of a derailleur system (Front and rear derailleurs, two shifting cables and shifters, rear hub with cassette, extra chain length, small and middle chainrings and bolts) averages 1600g. The weight of a Rohloff Speedhub 500/14 CC OEM fitted with shifter, cables and guides is 1820g, so approximately 220g extra minimum. This is their lightest possible combination; expect to add 150-200g of other fittings depending on the setup. It does not have an internal hub brake option, there?s just no space left inside, but is available with disc brake fittings. I think that you shouldn?t notice a big difference as the extra weight will be lower and half the distance from the frame pivot as the weight of the chainrings etc. You might feel the lighter bank account though J. All the best, Dan Chambers From: python-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:python-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Boyd, Mark Sent: 03 August 2010 14:08 To: Torben Scheel; python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [python] Re: Hub gears No, it doesn't have a hub brake. I think the full Rohloff assembly is around 200 g heavier than an equivalent derailleur set up, which doesn't sound much, but obviously more weight would be concentrated in the hub. Cheers Mark _____ From: Torben Scheel [mailto:torben@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 03 August 2010 13:06 To: Boyd, Mark Subject: RE: [python] Hub gears I think it's an excellent idea - the rohloff doesn't have hubbrake, does it? The weight of the hub can't be significantly higher than dual chain wheels, 8-9 speed casette, front and rear derailleurs, extra chain length and so forth. An adjustable framelink are great, but not so much because of the gearing system. cheers, Torben > //-------------- Original Message: -------------- > Hi Everyone > > A friend of mine has a Rohloff speed hub that I am thinking of buying > for my python project. If I include an eccentric bottom bracket, it > shouldn't need any other chain tensioning device, and may even work with > a chain case. This should make for a very tidy drive train. > > Other than the silly price tag that this would come with, can anyone > think of a reason why this wouldn't work? In particular, although I am > prepared for the inevitable bruising that learning to ride will bring, > do you think that having such a heavy hub will increase wheel flop and > so make the learning process even harder? If so, would you advise, say, > adjusting the steering head angle and if so to what? > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Mark > > > > ============================================================ > > This is the Python Mailinglist > > //www.freelists.org/list/python > > Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an empty mail to > python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. > > ============================================================ > >