This wiki article also makes a distinction between controlled vs. uncontrolled bike, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics#Motions, for example, "An uncontrolled bike is laterally unstable when stationary and can be laterally self-stable when moving under the right conditions or when controlled by a rider." Interesting historical note on center steering: "An early implementation of the concept was the Phantom bicycle in the early 1870s promoted as a safer alternative to the penny-farthing" http://www.mudsweatngears.co.uk/page_2473200.html "1869– Reynolds and Mays – Phantom – hinged in the middle of the frame, with a link system which resulted in the steering being shared between both wheels." >________________________________ > From: Jürgen Mages <jmages@xxxxxx> >To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 10:34 PM >Subject: [python] Re: Fine for python riding? > > >I ride the python for 11 years now. Never had problems with the police. >In fact there is no german law that demands handle bars for bikes. > >There is just a law that says, the rider/driver should be enabled of >controlling the vehicle at any give time ;-) > >Cheers, >Jürgen. > > > >> Does fixed (rear) handlebar count :)? >> >> Vi >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* bepb <bepb@xxxxxx> >> *To:* python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 3, 2014 4:37 AM >> *Subject:* [python] Fine for python riding? >> >> Hi, >> according to an automobil club, in Germany the free hand riding of a >> bike is threatened by a fine of 5€. >> At least, according to the automobil club, there is an explicit item in >> the new schedule of fines. >> >> This is rather odd since it seems to suggest they did not not to take >> the possibility into account that bikes could be steered by other means >> that the hands! >> Maybe some lobby work is required? Maybe we could apply to the UN.;-) >> >> >> >> >>http://www.adac.de/infotestrat/ratgeber-verkehr/verkehrsrecht/Fahrrad-und-Recht/Bussgeldkatalog_fuer_Radfahrer/default.aspx?ComponentId=164777&SourcePageId=164776 >> >> Cheers >> Gerald >> ============================================================ >> >> This is the Python Mailinglist >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/python >> >> Listmaster: Jurgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx <mailto:jmages@xxxxxx> >> >> To unsubscribe send an empty mail to >> python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. >> >> ============================================================ >> >> >> > >============================================================ > >This is the Python Mailinglist > >//www.freelists.org/list/python > >Listmaster: Jurgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx > >To unsubscribe send an empty mail to >python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. > >============================================================ > > > >