Last summer I made a folding phyhon with 26 inch wheels. It fit quite well into my car's trunk and could have been put in a bag for carring on a train but would have been a hand full. It has a pivot in the frame for rear suspension. The pivot is skewed so that the rear wheel can be rotated down and arround ending up beside the front wheel. The front wheel is then turned a bit to be paralel to the rear wheel. The seat back is removed and the whole thing is a pretty tight package. There are some pictures I sent to the mail list shortly after I completed it. It was my first attempt and was more than a little crude. I did worry about the skew in the suspension pivot causing some unintended steering with each bump. I assumed my legs would learn to make an automatic correction. I don't have any expereince with an unskewed suspension pivot. So I don't know if the skew is a problem or not. I learned to ride it and was fairly comfortable and stable when I had a wreck and bent the front wheel and one crank. I decided to rebuild the whole thing but before I got started I was given a unicycle (which I just HAD to master) and undertook rehabbing and old house for my son. Til now I have not had time to get back to pythoning. (The uni has been much easier than the house.) Very soon I expect to begin making a leaning, folding python tricycle with single wheel pedal driven trailor. My wife will not even think about learning to drive a python. I am hoping that the trike will be stable enough to add the trailor and have we'll have a detachable tandom. I'm quite optomistic about the design. IF it works I'll send pictures. Volker Philippent <bike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello, you sure know folding bikes like the Birdy. Does anyone have done a folding python in "normal" size, which does fully comply to city road traffic (especially german traffic laws)? I have seen the pictures of Baby Monty, which is dismountable, but this bike has neither brakes nor light (at least not on the pictures), though it features an interesting pivot mount. Contrary to Baby Monty, I am interested in a P3 style python with at least 24" wheels, whereas 26" would be better. It should be foldable to suit case size, so it fits into a car boot, or does not cost an extra fee on the train. Volker ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/python Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================