Hi Jürgen If not obvious, I am simply pushing hands against thighs as you had mentioned >> Wenn es mal schneller gehen soll, dann drücke ich mit >> den Händen meine Knie, was so etwa 4 km/h bringt. //www.freelists.org/post/python/probefahrt-entspannt,1 I also tried holding on fixed handlebar or seat effectively assisting with arms and torso, but the experience is not as interesting / pleasant. Vi >________________________________ > From: Jürgen Mages <jmages@xxxxxx> >To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:24 PM >Subject: [python] Re: Arm-assist pedalling > > >Hi Vi, > >I once tried two forms of arm input: One was a pushing force via two ski >poles that were attached to the pedals. The other was a pulling force >via two cords attached to the pedals. > >Both brought significant more speed but made me quite exhausted after >several kilometers. The pole method was more fun because of the direct >power transmission. If one manages to attach brake and gear levers to >the pole handle it might work out pretty well. > >Cheers and keep up the good thoughts, >Jürgen. > >On 10.01.2014 08:11, Vi Vuong wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Putting the arms to work seems like a logical thing to do on a long >> quiet ride, rather than just resting. After some testing, it seems that >> 10-15% arm-power assist at moderate range 100-150 watts is quite >> practical. Overall gain is not much, just ~1mph, but speed is more >> steady over slight changes in elevation or wind, similar to pedelec I >> guess. I am more intrigued by the synergy between arms and legs, quite >> different from rowing where the roles are switched. Steering seems more >> confident somehow, as if the hands have some direct influence on the >> pedals, new nueron connections? >> >> Yes, at first the arms do get tired but some moderate excercise should >> be good in the long run. Can't imagine the exhaustion from pushing the >> level of power mentioned in the article below... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Vi >> >> http://journals.humankinetics.com/AcuCustom/Sitename/Documents/DocumentItem/10417.pdf >> Arm and Leg Exercise in Cycling >> In a series of studies examining arm and leg exercise in cycling, we >> found that >> for a 1-min period, 6 subjects increased their power output by 17% using arm >> and leg exercise compared to leg power alone (522 watts vs. 470 watts >> average >> for the 6 subjects). The most efficient mode of arm exercise was >> bilateral op- >> posed (arms moving opposite to their respective legs). >> >> >> [python] Re: probefahrt entspannt >> >> * /From/: "brechtix" <brecht.vandeputte@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> * /To/: <python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> * /Date/: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:34:21 +0200 >> >>> Wenn es mal schneller gehen soll, dann drücke ich mit >>> den Händen meine Knie, was so etwa 4 km/h bringt. >>> >> Then it would be the world's most efficient arm-power assist. However >> extatic their owners and regardless of the great workout, I gather the >> Thys Rowbikes are no faster than merely leg-driven hpv's. Probably our >> heart & lung system provides a limit to the total wattage of arms and >> legs combined. >> >> I rode an armpowered trike once and it went very well for about a km, >> then I found out my arm muscles were not trained for endurance. First >> time I had spaghetti arms instead of - legs. >> >> It's another fascinating aspect of the Python setup that without any >> mechanical complexity or weight penalty one could deliver arm assist for >> a short anaerobic outburst of acceleration or a short climb. In city >> traffic I use the hamstrings for that trick. >> > >============================================================ > >This is the Python Mailinglist > >//www.freelists.org/list/python > >Listmaster: Jurgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx > >To unsubscribe send an empty mail to >python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. > >============================================================ > > > >