I spent the past few days with a good friend who has a MIG welder, and he let me work all day Saturday on my Python project. I have basically stuck with Jurgen's design, though I did use some round tubing for the middle assembly. So far, I am very happy with this design. The scariest part was bending th alloy crank! It was way too easy! Check out some photos at: http://community.webshots.com/user/climber11 Scott --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger